5 championships Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, JugRox said: IU’s NCSOS is actually decent compare to teams in front of them in NET. For example, Texas Tech NCSOS is over #200 and IU’s is #91. TT is NET #16 with a 16-8 record while IU is NET #58 with a 16-8 record. And then Minnesota is 1-8 on the road, IU stats better in every way, Minnesota is NET #40. Why? Dont even get me started with Purdue at 14-12.... Starting to think the NET has a massive flaw. NET for sure has a massive flaw. Another reason why you can only trust computer numbers to an extent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, JugRox said: IU’s NCSOS is actually decent compare to teams in front of them in NET. For example, Texas Tech NCSOS is over #200 and IU’s is #91. TT is NET #16 with a 16-8 record while IU is NET #58 with a 16-8 record. Dont even get me started with Purdue at 14-12.... Starting to think the NET has a massive flaw. Well they beat Louisville on a neutral floor. We beat Florida St at home. They played Iowa and Creighton in Vegas and lost to both. They lost at DePaul. They lost to Kentucky at home. We beat two worse teams in UConn and ND on neutral floors and lost to a bad Arkansas team at home. I would’ve taken our non-conference schedule everyday of the week compared to what they had to deal with. With that schedule, we’d be 13-11 or 14-10 right now if we were lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, MPM said: Well they beat Louisville on a neutral floor. We beat Florida St at home. They played Iowa and Creighton in Vegas and lost to both. They lost at DePaul. They lost to Kentucky at home. We beat two worse teams in UConn and ND on neutral floors and lost to a bad Arkansas team at home. I would’ve taken our non-conference schedule everyday of the week compared to what they had to deal with. With that schedule, we’d be 13-11 or 14-10 right now if we were lucky. Who are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, MPM said: Well they beat Louisville on a neutral floor. We beat Florida St at home. They played Iowa and Creighton in Vegas and lost to both. They lost at DePaul. They lost to Kentucky at home. We beat two worse teams in UConn and ND on neutral floors and lost to a bad Arkansas team at home. I would’ve taken our non-conference schedule everyday of the week compared to what they had to deal with. With that schedule, we’d be 13-11 or 14-10 right now if we were lucky. And that’s worth 40 spot difference between 2 teams with the same record. And IU having more Q1 wins and no bad losses? And Texas Tech having more Quad 4 wins?? lol....I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 I just shake my head seeing what these college coaches draw up at the end of games. Mississippi was down 1 with 25 seconds left and their guard dribble back and forth until 10 seconds to go and took a backup 3 which was an air ball. I don't know if it is the playerswho don't run the plays or if coaches just don't know how to drew up a play to get a good shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, 5 championships said: NET for sure has a massive flaw. Another reason why you can only trust computer numbers to an extent Does NET get involved with margin of victory and loss? Maybe that’s where we get dinged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I just shake my head seeing what these college coaches draw up at the end of games. Mississippi was down 1 with 25 seconds left and their guard dribble back and forth until 10 seconds to go and took a backup 3 which was an air ball. I don't know if it is the playerswho don't run the plays or if coaches just don't know how to drew up a play to get a good shot. Saw that. Hard to imagine any coach drawing that up. But teams wait too long to start the offense in last shot situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Bad loss for Butler at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, JugRox said: And that’s worth 40 spot difference between 2 teams with the same record. And IU having more Q1 wins and no bad losses? And Texas Tech having more Quad 4 wins?? lol....I guess Well they win by a lot more at home and lose by a lot less on the road. They have won by 35, 20 and 46 against the Big 12 bottoms feeders at home. We went to OT against Nebraska and beat Northwestern by 4. They played Creighton, DePaul and Louisville without Ramsey (who leads them in scoring at 15 PPG) and they beat Louisville by 13 on a neutral floor without him. Do we beat either UConn or ND without TJD?? They lost to Kansas by 3 on the road. How much do you think we would lose to Kansas on the road by? Are they 40 spots better than us? Well Sagarin has them at 16 and us at 40 which I think is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Bad loss for Butler at home. Not sorry, tired of the Butler is the best program in the state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 So based on today's NET rankings, beating Purdue at home was a Quad 1 win for OSU. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Does NET get involved with margin of victory and loss? Maybe that’s where we get dinged? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-26/net-explained-ncaa-adopts-new-college-basketball-ranking%3famp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 I have a solution. The tournament committee should match Purdue and Texas Tech against each other in one of the play-in games. But, instead of settling it on the court, just run 1 million computer simulations. Whichever team wins the most simulations gets to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Texas Tech is squarely on the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 "Baby Shaq" heading to LSU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I just shake my head seeing what these college coaches draw up at the end of games. Mississippi was down 1 with 25 seconds left and their guard dribble back and forth until 10 seconds to go and took a backup 3 which was an air ball. I don't know if it is the playerswho don't run the plays or if coaches just don't know how to drew up a play to get a good shot. Was his name Green or Durham? I jest. Pitiful end for the Rebs. They had the 'Cats squarely in their sights at Rupp and let it slip away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: Does NET get involved with margin of victory and loss? Maybe that’s where we get dinged? Pretty sure it does to an extent. I believe someone said it caps at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MPM said: Well they win by a lot more at home and lose by a lot less on the road. They have won by 35, 20 and 46 against the Big 12 bottoms feeders at home. We went to OT against Nebraska and beat Northwestern by 4. They played Creighton, DePaul and Louisville without Ramsey (who leads them in scoring at 15 PPG) and they beat Louisville by 13 on a neutral floor without him. Do we beat either UConn or ND without TJD?? They lost to Kansas by 3 on the road. How much do you think we would lose to Kansas on the road by? Are they 40 spots better than us? Well Sagarin has them at 16 and us at 40 which I think is fair. Scoring margin in capped at 10. Winning by 10 is the same as winning by 35. Same with losing. Explain Minnesota at 40 then.... Or Stanford at 33. BYU? NET is flawed.....in a big way. Margin of victory is the exact reason the old RPI didn’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I just shake my head seeing what these college coaches draw up at the end of games. Mississippi was down 1 with 25 seconds left and their guard dribble back and forth until 10 seconds to go and took a backup 3 which was an air ball. I don't know if it is the playerswho don't run the plays or if coaches just don't know how to drew up a play to get a good shot. At the TO that followed, the Old Miss coach yelled at the kid who took the shot something like, "What were you doing...pass the ball!", which leads me to believe the kid had no clue and panicked. But it does make you wonder how well some coaches handle these last shot situations and what they attempt to draw up and explain in that huddle. So, I'm right there with you, Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Whinin Illini losing streak goes to 4 after getting smoked at the RAC...Dosunmu did not play but won't be out long from the looks of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstall76 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, JugRox said: Scoring margin in capped at 10. Winning by 10 is the same as winning by 35. Same with losing. Explain Minnesota at 40 then.... Or Stanford at 33. BYU? NET is flawed.....in a big way. Margin of victory is the exact reason the old RPI didn’t work. I believe scoring margin is only capped in the non conference so cupcakes don't overly impact it.🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Bad loss for Butler at home. Georgetown was missing their top two scorers and had 5 healthy scholarship players. 3 guys played 40 minutes and another played 37. Butler now 7-6 in BE and next two on the road at Seton Hall and Creighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Whinin Illini losing streak goes to 4 after getting smoked at the RAC...Dosunmu did not play but won't be out long from the looks of it... Soon to be #5. At Penn St next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, bstall76 said: I believe scoring margin is only capped in the non conference so cupcakes don't overly impact it.🙄 Nope. All games capped at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Drroogh said: Not sorry, tired of the Butler is the best program in the state! That hasn’t been true since Stevens left IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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