IUFLA Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jefftheref said: I was friends with Jerry's cousin Tom when I lived in Franklin. We had alot of convsations about Jerry playing at Purdue instead of Indiana. He could of been a Hoosier very easily. Yep. I went to school with Jerry. Really good guy. Never a big head or anything like that. And he was a helluva high school QB too. He really wanted to go to IU but RMK had other players he was waiting for and Jerry finally signed with the Boilers. I believe RMK has said that it was one of his biggest recruiting mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Artesian_86 said: As long as Cal is coaching in the NCAA, those are the type of players he will continue to attract. I mean, really, he has to be the most transparent D-1 coach of all time. His pitch,....."Come to UK, then you can be FAST-TRACKED to the NBA and $$$$ quicker than any other school!....Look at all the NBA players I've produced!!" Those type of players have lost site of what it means to play for and represent a college university with honor and selflessness. Those type of players are just as transparent as Cal....Aa far as I'm concerned, he can have every single one of them..... 90% of the players he's "produced" would have been in the NBA if my dog was their college head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Thanks. Is KenPom the one that uses data to start the season based on last year results? I thought one of them was very unreliable. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 On the subject of KenPom. Yes, his formula at the beginning of the year factors in last season. That said, the impact diminishes with each and every game played this season. So, while it does not totally go away until January of this season, the impact from last year at this point is minimal. It's not like we're going to wake up on January 1st and see Purdue drop from 10th to 45th or IU jump from 34th to 12th. For some reason, his formula is infatuated with Purdue this season, much the way it traditionally liked Wisconsin more than it seemed warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 This is why I trust Sagarin more. Purdue slots in at 38 and IU at 33. In no model should Purdue be in or near the top 20. http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, MPM said: This is why I trust Sagarin more. Purdue slots in at 38 and IU at 33. In no model should Purdue be in or near the top 20. http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm Yeah, well Jeff Sagarin lives in Bloomington - Random Purdue fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: None of those are as good as UVA lol. They might be over ranked but they’re still solid. We also beat a ranked VCU team as well. I think FSU is better than UVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1215 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Virginia is blistering the nets today against a powerhouse South Carolina team 😎. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: 90% of the players he's "produced" would have been in the NBA if my dog was their college head coach. Your estimate is low. I can't think of a single player who wasn't projected to the NBA, get drafted under Cal's "development". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Your estimate is low. I can't think of a single player who wasn't projected to the NBA, get drafted under Cal's "development". I get what you are saying but some guys out perform their rank. Shia Gilgous Alexander wasn’t a 5* and was a lottery pick. Not to argue because I get your point but let’s not talk in absolutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Your estimate is low. I can't think of a single player who wasn't projected to the NBA, get drafted under Cal's "development". Eh, was more doubting my dog's coaching ability. Her offensive schemes need work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Your estimate is low. I can't think of a single player who wasn't projected to the NBA, get drafted under Cal's "development". Kyle Wiltjer says "Hi." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, rico said: Kyle Wiltjer says "Hi." Did he not transfer to Gonzaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Did he not transfer to Gonzaga Yep final 2 years. Got far away from Cal as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Did he not transfer to Gonzaga Oh yeah, after Cal tossed him aside. Top 25 player to UK...ended up with the Zags and went undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 USCe up 9 over UVA with 4 minutes to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 It goes final...UVA gives up 70 and scores 59. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrangerHoosier Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: It goes final...UVA gives up 70 and scores 59. Purdue will jump 5 spots in Kenpom for some reason regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckraker Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, GrangerHoosier said: Purdue will jump 5 spots in Kenpom for some reason regardless. Maybe they'll hang a Kenpom banner along side of the Helms banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 hours ago, rico said: The only player I was impressed with on UK's squad yesterday was Sestina...and he didn't learn his craft from Cal. Yep...It sure would be nice to get a grad transfer with his shooting ability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblaz13 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Might have been said but, UVA losing by double digits at home to South Carolina, along with both Purdue's 2nd B1G game the other night and the Butler game Saturday revealed the Boilermakers are maybe less special than their fans perhaps started to believe after they smacked Virginia in the Challenge. UVA is NOT even a legit top 15 team after this IMO.. 2 not so good losses for the Cavs on the season now seems like they overshadow their wins . For all of the talk about IU's 11 wins lacking much quality and the blowout loss at Wiscy they still handled a couple of teams away from home that are not very far separated from South Carolina. This SC win factored in hurts my perception of all 3 of their(PUke, SC and UVA's) respective NCAAT resumes to a degree which isn't entirely fair to South Carolina having added the ranked road win.UVA coming higher than 15 - 17 would surprise me a little . Speaking of Carolinas, UNC dropping that game to Wofford in that 4 game losing streak that just ended had already arguably devalued UVA's win over the Heels..Personally curious how much more does it take before the polls and voting reflect a bit more reality. Butler and Dayton come to mind .Both have looked just as good if not better to the eye as/than any team I've named here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 In regards to that UVA game yesterday, Jay Bilas made an interesting comment on the Cavs. And I paraphrase, "You can't depend on your pitcher to throw a shutout every game." That is to say that your offense has to put up numbers. Viginia has no offensive firepower and their defense got exposed by the Gamecocks. USCe pushed the ball up the court, attacked the rim, and when they could kicked it out(sound familiar) for an open jumper. Virginia let USCe shoot 27-49 from the floor. The only thing the Cavs might have going for them this year is that it appears to be a week ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, rico said: In regards to that UVA game yesterday, Jay Bilas made an interesting comment on the Cavs. And I paraphrase, "You can't depend on your pitcher to throw a shutout every game." That is to say that your offense has to put up numbers. Viginia has no offensive firepower and their defense got exposed by the Gamecocks. USCe pushed the ball up the court, attacked the rim, and when they could kicked it out(sound familiar) for an open jumper. Virginia let USCe shoot 27-49 from the floor. The only thing the Cavs might have going for them this year is that it appears to be a week ACC. They just aren't a very good team honestly. They have no scoring threat. Their point guard Clark is a HUGE drop off from what they had last year. He almost had a double double yesterday....in TURNOVERS! Kid is 5'9 yet some how plays SMALLER than that! I can't see any way possible this team is ranked by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblaz13 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 This week is the closest they have gotten to getting it "right" all season thus far IMO.lol I'm just glad Kentucky finally plummeted.That benefit of the doubt they kept getting before actually earning it was bugging me the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 21 hours ago, dgambill said: I get what you are saying but some guys out perform their rank. Shia Gilgous Alexander wasn’t a 5* and was a lottery pick. Not to argue because I get your point but let’s not talk in absolutes. Funny...I swear I saw him play and play well in the McDonald's game...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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