IU/Butler/Notre Dame Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said: I feel responsible to at least say that this loss had nothing to do with DG’s lack of whatever. Not a fan at all, but for this game I have no complaints on him. Pathetic effort on the defensive boards and the inability to make layups by this team is just unbelievable. Robbie Hummel nailed it. Can’t expect CAM to have an answer when we miss the number of layups and open shots that we do. If anything, we can be mad at CAM for not having a shooter three years in. Im a huge Dg critic and he did have two turnovers and no assists but I tend to agree with you this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: With this years team what does he need to do? Oh sorry. I thought you meant overall. Um. Better guard play and basketball IQ overall. I think. This year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU/Butler/Notre Dame Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Oh and ...yet again ...when we lose we have more turnovers than assists by a good bit ....and the other team has significantly more assists than turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Leathernecks said: We shot 58.3% from 3 and we only shot 12 all game. Also, our best player in the post only got 6 shots. One off a deflection, and I think 3 in the 2nd half were from offensive rebounds. That means we got him 2 shots in the flow of the offense. Yikes. I don't know what we want to call our offensive system, but it isn't working. If we're shooting above 50% from 3, we should put up 25+. If not, TJD should get 15+ shots. To have 12 threes and TJD get 6 shots is a disaster. We also give up open 3 after open 3. I have zero confidence this is a system built to work in 2020. Way too soon to question the system 3 years is not nearly enough time for any of us to make that statement, no way can we expect a system to work with someone else's players. That why I am following Dayton, cant give Grant credit for it and since his guys are not all there yet in all honesty that is CAM'S team so we can take solace in knowing that Dayton is pretty good. 🙄 like our guys just don't want to work hard enough to find the sarcasm emoji. If we all want to bury our collective heads in the sand and pretend all is well that's fine. I bury mind so I dont have to watch these away games or smell the stench of our play. Yes I am negative. Thankful I spent my time working on a plumbing issue under the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, IUskim said: No Geronimo is 84. On rivals at least. Geronimo has had two great games this past week. Back to back. Going off memory here. 19 points, followed up with 29. And double doubles in both, if memory is not failing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEKA Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said: I feel responsible to at least say that this loss had nothing to do with DG’s lack of whatever. For this game, I tend to generally agree with this. However, DG has a tendency to come in, make a single boneheaded play (hello, one handed skip pass to DeRon's feet, I'm looking at you), which negatively alters any flow/momentum that we were building. And it always seems to happen at critical junctures of the game that coincides with prolonged scoring droughts. Sure he hits some shots to keep us in some games, and occasionally has a great offensive game, but it's his unwillingness to play like an experienced, level-headed senior that makes good decisions that kill us. That said, missing so many looks right at the rim and getting killed on the offensive glass is on everyone else today. I guess I just do not enjoy watching trash basketball. *EDIT: the quote wasn't actually from IU/Butler/Notre Dame, but something he was responding to* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, BEKA said: For this game, I tend to generally agree with this. However, DG has a tendency to come in, make a single boneheaded play (hello, one handed skip pass to DeRon's feet, I'm looking at you), which negatively alters any flow/momentum that we were building. And it always seems to happen at critical junctures of the game that coincides with prolonged scoring droughts. Sure he hits some shots to keep us in some games, and occasionally has a great offensive game, but it's his unwillingness to play like an experienced, level-headed senior that makes good decisions that kill us. That said, missing so many looks right at the rim and getting killed on the offensive glass is on everyone else today. I guess I just do not enjoy watching trash basketball. Exactly. In these road games, he's generally coming in when we are down, and is just adding more fuel to the fire. In addition to that terrible pass to DD, he also had what looked like an easy shot in the lane and instead threw the ball away trying to pass. It's tough for him, because he has to immediately play well or he's going to get pulled, but we've all seen the same show over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Way too soon to question the system 3 years is not nearly enough time for any of us to make that statement, no way can we expect a system to work with someone else's players. That why I am following Dayton, cant give Grant credit for it and since his guys are not all there yet in all honesty that is CAM'S team so we can take solace in knowing that Dayton is pretty good. 🙄 like our guys just don't want to work hard enough to find the sarcasm emoji. If we all want to bury our collective heads in the sand and pretend all is well that's fine. I bury mind so I dont have to watch these away games or smell the stench of our play. Yes I am negative. Thankful I spent my time working on a plumbing issue under the house Yeah come on. Need at least 9 years to know a system is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 System is not flawed IMHO. Still getting to the FT line. Just need guys that can complete the most basic of all basketball plays. Hitting the free throws. Today, against OSU... oh.... those bunnies. Another basic basketball play. After a while. I lost count of the bunnies IU blew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Way too soon to question the system 3 years is not nearly enough time for any of us to make that statement, no way can we expect a system to work with someone else's players. That why I am following Dayton, cant give Grant credit for it and since his guys are not all there yet in all honesty that is CAM'S team so we can take solace in knowing that Dayton is pretty good. 🙄 like our guys just don't want to work hard enough to find the sarcasm emoji. If we all want to bury our collective heads in the sand and pretend all is well that's fine. I bury mind so I dont have to watch these away games or smell the stench of our play. Yes I am negative. Thankful I spent my time working on a plumbing issue under the house Not taking anything away from Dayton, but they are not in the B1G...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU/Butler/Notre Dame Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, BEKA said: For this game, I tend to generally agree with this. However, DG has a tendency to come in, make a single boneheaded play (hello, one handed skip pass to DeRon's feet, I'm looking at you), which negatively alters any flow/momentum that we were building. And it always seems to happen at critical junctures of the game that coincides with prolonged scoring droughts. Sure he hits some shots to keep us in some games, and occasionally has a great offensive game, but it's his unwillingness to play like an experienced, level-headed senior that makes good decisions that kill us. That said, missing so many looks right at the rim and getting killed on the offensive glass is on everyone else today. I guess I just do not enjoy watching trash basketball. *EDIT: the quote wasn't actually from IU/Butler/Notre Dame, but something he was responding to* And I agree with your sentiment I took a picture of the game clock to remind me of when that exact play occurred because you are 100% correct it was a critical juncture that went from us getting the game down to five -seven point deficit with an easy bucket for Davis to them getting the ball and piling on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, BEKA said: That said, missing so many looks right at the rim and getting killed on the offensive glass is on everyone else today. I guess I just do not enjoy watching trash basketball. Hence, as I earlier stated, why I DVR the games...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Not taking anything away from Dayton, but they are not in the B1G...... Haven't watched Dayton this year, so question for anyone who may follow them. Anthony Grant was 117-85 at Alabama and was fired end of year 6. First two years at Dayton was 35-29. This year 19-2. Has he changed his system or is Obi Toppin just that dominant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, milehiiu said: System is not flawed IMHO. Still getting to the FT line. Just need guys that can complete the most basic of all basketball plays. Hitting the free throws. Today, against OSU... oh.... those bunnies. Another basic basketball play. After a while. I lost count of the bunnies IU blew. It may be the system and Archie it may not be. The point is that we’re in year 3 and he’s a 100% responsible for this roster. He’s had more than enough time to fix things and next year likely won’t be any better. It will be a lot worse if Trayce bolts. Ive been reading the various message boards and Twitter and the vast majority of the fan base has checked out and wants Archie gone. I don’t see how he recovers at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Ive been reading the various message boards and Twitter and the vast majority of the fan base has checked out and wants Archie gone. I don’t see how he recovers at this point. That... to me is a shame. Currently, despite the recent performances, IU is still in the hunt for a NCAAT bid. And that's not me talking. But rather, more that one bracket gurus. And then. And then. Oh I know, that IU has never won the B1G championship. However, considering how the B1G season has gone so far, Indy is as close to home court advantage as IU can ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: It may be the system and Archie it may not be. The point is that we’re in year 3 and he’s a 100% responsible for this roster. He’s had more than enough time to fix things and next year likely won’t be any better. It will be a lot worse if Trayce bolts. Ive been reading the various message boards and Twitter and the vast majority of the fan base has checked out and wants Archie gone. I don’t see how he recovers at this point. I gentlemen in his mid 70's life long IU fan said he just cant watch this team play. He is not blaming CAM but just told me he quoting RMK would rather watch 2 frogs humping. I cleaned up a lot.of language. I think a lot of apathy setting in For me IU is not.must see TV anymore each year my apathy grows and it does sadden mem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just now, Billingsley99 said: I gentlemen in his mid 70's life long IU fan said he just cant watch this team play. He is not blaming CAM but just told me he quoting RMK would rather watch 2 frogs humping. I cleaned up a lot.of language. I think a lot of apathy setting in For me IU is not.must see TV anymore each year my apathy grows and it does sadden mem I DVR the game today. It will get deleted without me watching. I had a feeling we were going to lose and I had some other commitments anyway. We are going to end up around .500 in the BIG by my estimation, which will get us in the tournament. I feel we will probably have a similar finish next year as well. That is where the question will be, is that good enough in the first four years? I think we are a squeak into the tournament team this year and a bubble type of team next (I don't feel our Miller's recruiting adequately addressed this team's weakness). We really need to make some hay with that 2021 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, milehiiu said: That... to me is a shame. Currently, despite the recent performances, IU is still in the hunt for a NCAAT bid. And that's not me talking. But rather, more that one bracket gurus. And then. And then. Oh I know, that IU has never won the B1G championship. However, considering how the B1G season has gone so far, Indy is as close to home court advantage as IU can ask for. For me the fact that getting in by the skin of our teeth is considered a success. At this point even the thought of being a 1 seems like the farthest thing imaginable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I gentlemen in his mid 70's life long IU fan said he just cant watch this team play. He is not blaming CAM but just told me he quoting RMK would rather watch 2 frogs humping. I cleaned up a lot.of language. I think a lot of apathy setting in For me IU is not.must see TV anymore each year my apathy grows and it does sadden mem Me too! I haven't watched the last two games and I don't feel bad about it one bit. I am doing a complete bathroom makeover so today I was tearing out a couple of walls and laminate flooring. Tomorrow I get up in the attic to remove some blown-in fiberglass insulation and run some wiring for recessed lighting and a new light/bath fan combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jefftheref Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said: Put him in at the 3 for Smith. May have some issues on defensive side, but he is more a 3 than Smith. Smith is dud in my opinion. I am hoping he graduates this year and transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just now, 5fouls said: Is that one of fouls wives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: For me the fact that getting in by the skin of our teeth is considered a success. At this point even the thought of being a 1 seems like the farthest thing imaginable I would not consider getting in by winning the B1G Tournament would be considered getting in by the skin of our teeth. Nor would I feel that way, by winning all the way to the championship game. The way this season has gone for the entire B1G, I could see that happening. Let's not forget we are on a three game roll against Michigan State... a team many early on had winning it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 if we get in the NCAA tourney, i am very happy with this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Decided to catch the game at Buffalo Wild Wings today so at least I'd have some decent grub and company rather than feeling like my entire 2 hours was wasted. 😎🍻 Another frustrating game to watch. Quickly I got the sense of 'here we go again'. All those missed looks inside on a day when we actually shot well from the 3 point and FT lines. Gave up too many rebounds and too many layups. I kind of resigned myself to the game being a loss beforehand. Sweeping our remaining home schedule is critical. Hoping we are up to the task! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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