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48 minutes ago, jefftheref said:

Stupid is allowing him to continue to destroy this program. You have your opinion and I have mine. %*^$ Mike needs to go!

My guess is that he is not calling your opinion "stupid". If being the best fan is the inter-sectionalism of most extreme emotional reaction and harshest personal attacks, then I guess I am no fan.

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58 minutes ago, Officer Obie said:

I remember when USI won the D2 Championship. I had it on the radio. It was awesome. But Pearl was a handful. He and IU would have been oil and water. Pearl being the oil.

The last time we had a coach that was oil. Was a pretty good period of time for the fans and players. We need more oil. 5w20 non synthetic for me please. 

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Today marks the 12th time in 20 years that Indiana has missed out on the tournament. This isn’t particularly a Woodson knock, but a knock at how bad our coaching and administration have been in general. Give me a guy that will breathe fire into the program and give us consistency from a competitive standpoint. 

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10 minutes ago, Danomatic said:

Today marks the 12th time in 20 years that Indiana has missed out on the tournament. This isn’t particularly a Woodson knock, but a knock at how bad our coaching and administration have been in general. Give me a guy that will breathe fire into the program and give us consistency from a competitive standpoint. 

Meanwhile ... Kelvin Sampson has a 1 seed and he is in the "Hall of fame" conversation based on the announcers in yesterday's Big12 championship. :coffee:

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4 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

So we probably need to come to grips with this. He's either turning it around or getting canned next year. That's on him, the staff, and the administration. I am sure everyone involved knows this. Will we reach Louisville and Michigan levels? I don't know, but either way those jobs are going to get interest from good coaches and IU's will too. Personally I would give T.J. Otzelberger the first call. He turned around a program that went 2–22 0–18, and uses the portal very effectively. He seems like the kind of guy that would thrive at IU. But I think they'll be a lot good candidates both young and old. I know Dolson is in the crosshairs (as he should be) but he hired a guy like Cig after Allen, so I think we'll see a similar about-face when the time comes. 

IIRC Otz current contract runs through 2029 and his buyout next spring will be around $15 million 

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3 hours ago, SawatchHoosier said:

I used to be in favor of Bruce Pearl coaching for Indiana but if he's going to win/enter these types of tournaments I think we might be better off with Dusty May. 

 

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Be a lot more interesting to watch then the B1G10 hack fest.

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2 hours ago, Officer Obie said:

I remember when USI won the D2 Championship. I had it on the radio. It was awesome. But Pearl was a handful. He and IU would have been oil and water. Pearl being the oil.

Pearl was just before his time…his antics and discretions were made for this new age of college basketball. Heck Harbaugh and UM just won a NC and those two are basically blood brothers when it comes to personalities and actions.

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6 minutes ago, madmax said:

This is from another boards insider. Take it however you want-I’m not saying it’s true or accurate.

 

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

If Woodson cared about the good of the program then he would have stepped aside this off-season.

This is nothing but purgatory for year and putting us back even farther

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29 minutes ago, madmax said:

This is from another boards insider. Take it however you want-I’m not saying it’s true or accurate.

 

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

I agree about Dusty May. He might very well be one of our own, but that hire would scream Archie to me. Indiana needs someone who has credentials nationally, and who can both recruit high school stars and portal prospects alike. A couple of decent tournament runs at a place that doesn’t demand much won’t cut it… or at least I hope that ship has sailed.

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