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6 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

Fife is still out of coaching.  Whatever he did, he did to himself.  Reminder #7000

Maybe, but I’d rather have Fife coaching right now than Woodson. Fife would at least give a crap, show some fire. But I’m starting to wonder if Fife knew what was going to happen and wasn’t a “yes man”. 

4 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said:

Agreed. He's an Archie hire. Why is Hunter still here?

🙋🏻

9 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

I'm not there at all in terms of Coaching changes. Weighing all sides of things between recruiting, player development, and Coaching I'm on the side of chalk it up as a bad year and go from there in the offseason. We certainly will have an entirely different roster next year.

 

What did you weigh them? 😂 Nothing is going to change. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Imagine what the last two years would have looked like if TJD wasn’t here. And Woodson didn’t bring him here. 

1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

ill add that we got one shot in the first three minutes of the second half, which is were we lost the game. How can our coach honestly say this? 

I don’t know, but he knows more than you do. 😂

Embarrassing as it gets, but not surprised. 

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

OH GOD OH NO

 

I had to open my mouth and say we hadn’t seen Courtney Green this year. 🙄

12 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I assume he means this year when we beat Maryland and Michigan 

Sarcasm Scott!

42 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I am half way there already. I have found myself not watching as much college games as I use to. The other night there was like 3 games on and two was power conference teams. Instead I watched reruns of the Big Bang Theory

Come on Scott! You spend hours a day on this forum talking IU Basketball!

Just now, Victobmyboy said:

I understand what you are saying. Lots of misses lately. Can’t deny that. I just don’t know if you can win it all with mostly Indiana kids year in and year out. I think you can have a too much talent problem. Look at UK. They can score and score but can’t defend. I’m not sure kids truly know what IU basketball is anymore. Been a long time. 

That’s fair enough. I think the right guy (hope that’s Woody moving forward) can find the right balance of kids like the state typically produces mixed with out-of-state, talented guys that know how to play. 

Just now, IUFLA said:

McNeely?

Yeap, guys like him. We’ve failed at finding those guys in recent years. Which is unacceptable when there’s normally some sitting in your backyard. Not saying the state of Indiana has guys as talented as McNeely (total package it appears) regularly. Nor am I saying the state of Indiana is the only one that produces kids like that. But we’ve missed on plenty that know the game and can shoot that were on our doorstep.

49 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said:

Don’t mistake best with stars. We see how a certain southern Indiana 5* turned out. You want talent whether they are from Indiana or Yemen. 

Yeah, my post was more geared at the idea we’re letting A LOT of talent go elsewhere without putting much effort into them because they appeared to be less athletic/skilled than others. Give me a slightly less talented kid that can shoot and knows how to play the game vs a kid that has the so-called more potential that takes two years to develop. This isn’t the old style college formula anymore where you have 3-4 years to watch a kid development. There’s also something to be said about the kid that knows what IU basketball stands for, means a little more. 

1 hour ago, Victobmyboy said:

87 team says hello. 3 indiana kids and only one played(Alford). You take the best and if it’s Indiana kids then cool. Indiana isn’t the hotbed it once was. You do get some players that have something to prove after getting snubbed. 

So you want the kids with more stars next to their name in every occasion no matter where they are from? 

9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

Need an easy win and to build momentum.

The coaches need to continuing moving us towards a more perimeter oriented gameplay, it can't just be a one-off game here and there for us to have any amount of success to finish this season. 

Nothing will be easy for us @KoB2011 !

1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Yes, it is and not really quibbling with IUs ranking at 94, but MSU at 22? FWIW Jerry Palm has them as an 11 seed playing in the First Four. 

I didn’t look it up, but has MSU gotten stomped by anybody? And did they beat the teams they should have beat the way they should have beat them. NET takes into account efficiency numbers, how you play the game, along with the result right? So just comparing two records doesn’t tell the whole story, but I’d still say theirs looks better seeing they have two quad one wins. 

1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said:

so... 3 pts, 3 rebs in a loss to NEB.  people voted for him to make a point that there shouldn't be one... 3 minutes, 0 points vs Rutgers in a loss...2 pts, 2 rebs, 1 asst in a loss to Ilinois.  that's all i'm saying.  no one really voted for him in those 3 games because they thought he was the MVP.  to each their own though.  

Or believe it or not, given the shortcomings of everybody else, he played error free basketball and there was no good option. I’d vote for him over somebody that had 15 points and 5 turnovers. You’re prob right though, and I may have done the same thing you said.  Shit I can’t remember. 😂

Get the Indiana kids that know how to play, know what IU is about, and can shoot. Mix in highly rated, talented out of state kids that fit in. I know we all just want the kids that best fit our roster/style regardless of location, but I think we’ve found out over the years that those kids are usually sitting in our backyard. We don’t solely need kids with a lot of stars next to their names. 

Just now, mrflynn03 said:

Looks like scrotum took another police chief job 

https://triblive.com/local/larry-scirotto-takes-reins-of-pittsburgh-police-with-list-of-priorities/

"Under Gainey, Scirotto also will no longer serve as an NCAA college basketball referee,"

Good grief I wouldn’t want to get pulled over by him. Can’t handle power at all!

13 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Courtney Green did the Purdue-Northwestern game last night

I hadn’t seen him this year, but that tells you why that game was officiated so poorly. I was just told that a certain few guys didn’t get renewed. I hadn’t seen him or Scirotto so figured they got canned. Hopefully for the Big10 that was one of one or a couple for Green. Anybody seen Scirotto this year? I don’t watch much when IU isn’t playing.

31 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

fair enough.

wonder how often that happens, head officials of games or just the third guy? Do the head officials travel interleague like that?

IDK just seems like the B1G is officiated differently, and i figured most of that was from the continuity of the officials. 

Your primary officials (unsure how many are actually called primary - can find out) will get more Big10 games, so you’ll see somebody like DJ Carstensen more often than some others. He’s less likely to have multiple conferences consecutive nights. But they draw from a pool of secondary officials to typically fill the other two spots pretty regularly and those guys are more likely to have multiple conferences in consecutive nights. I know there was emphasis on officials doing a better job this year in the Big10, and I truly believe they have been for the most part. But that’s why you don’t see guys like Larry Scirotto or Courtney Green anymore. The Big10 booted them essentially. Prob more guys I’m missing. Can prob find that out too. 

2 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

I agree with this in part. I even is there arent B1G officials and they are subcontractors. The still use the same officials from the same pool. 1 ref is not going to officiate an SEC game on Monday, B1G on Tuesday, ACC Wednesday. The same officials are used, they have these built in pre conceived notions and perceptions that carry over from game to game. 

The home court does has some impact IDK how much that is though.. But that doesnt explain when Edey goes on the road and gets the same coddling. or XJ being reviewed the other night that was not even close to being needed.

I think there are coaches that can work officials better than others. 

I can understand your last two paragraphs, but your first one is inaccurate. One of the guys that did the Iowa game Tues night actually officiates in numerous conferences, and HAS had times this year where he did three different conferences three nights in a row. For example, he did a Big10 game one night, SEC game the following night, and then an American game the next night, followed up by another SEC game two nights later. Conferences have primary officials and also secondary officials that they pull from. This isn’t an opinion btw. I know that for a fact.

5 hours ago, BeerBQ said:

That is a good video of Edey drawing a foul by hooking his arm around the defender. I don’t see anything on the video that makes me think it is a defensive foul. 

I’m in the very small minority here when I say this, but it looked like the Nwestern guy put his arm under Edey’s initially, arms weren’t really straight up, but I don’t understand why it wasn’t called on the floor. More importantly what I don’t understand is why he was allowed to just slam into the Nwestern kid pushing him halfway down the lane. He should have been called for a charge and then the other stuff doesn’t happen.

1 hour ago, NotIThatLives said:

What is the definition of most valuable?  Would it not be, if this player is removed our chances of winning would be 0, 10, 25, 50 %?

Yesterday with Malik out.  If Ware didn't do what he did, 0% chance IU wins.  If Leal didn't do what he did, 25% chance IU wins.  In my idiotic opinion,  respectfully.  

I'm all ears if someone has a better way to put it.  

I never vote for a losing most valuable because they weren't valuable enough to win the thing.  To each their own on that one.  

 

Meh, I mean you’re prob right, we don’t win without Ware, but we also don’t win without Leal. That’s all hypothetical anyway, we don’t really know bc it didn’t happen. We can play the what if game all day. We also prob don’t go down to the wire IF Ware doesn’t miss five FTs. Each person gets to vote on what stats they felt were most valuable. Agree on not voting when we lose. Btw, you’re wrong…. Look at the poll results. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

2 hours ago, NotIThatLives said:

🤷‍♂️either.  I always thought it was essentially who had the biggest impact on winning, ie most valuable.  Like last year a handful of times Trayce would have like 18, 14, 5 blocks but Tamar or some random finally hit 3 or 4 shots so there's a big debate.  No.  Really there isn't.  

You trying to debate me on why my opinionated vote is incorrect? 😂 I mean there are numerous scenarios for why the best player statistically may not have been the MVP. Not always clear who the best player statistically is anyway. I’d argue Leal’s 7 rebounds out of the guard position, off the bench no less, is more valuable than a 7 footer’s 10. I could also argue Leal hit some bigger, more difficult shots while not missing 5 FTs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

1 hour ago, DWB said:

It does for me, when we're voting for each individual game. We're tracking the voting for each individual game.

The player who has the best game (offense, defense, hustle, making others play better, etc) is in the eye of the voter. We all have our opinions on who that is for each indv game. No one's opinion is better than than another persons. That's why we have a voting scoreboard.

Yeah, your last part is the purpose for my comment. 

MVP doesn’t necessarily mean best player on the floor that night. 🤷🏻‍♂️