mrflynn03

3 ready positions

St Louis couple needs to read this article. The Sul position would have been the correct choice. 

Out of ammo?  Whats that like? 😁

2 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

You said this...is this one of the "facts" you speak of? If so, the article I linked directly refutes that.

Dr Sharma's is of the "opinion" that "Just right after July 4 is when we will likely see the impact of the surge."

You seem to be banking on her "opinion" to support your "facts." 

You also cited hospital capacity levels. I linked a " factual" article that stated Houston officials are confident they have capacity, even with the spike, covered.

I don't think I'm the one who ignores "facts" when they don't support my position. In fact, I really don't have a position here. I've made my opinion on the whole pandemic abundantly clear...I wear a mask. I limit my trips out of the house...I social distance...

But, Mother Nature is going to be Mother Nature...

 

In case you didnt see it posted earlier, since you mentioned hospital capacity.

From the Texas Medical Center. 

4 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said:

The kid from Two and a Half Men.

Angus jones. Terrible name. Poor kid. 

1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said:

Wendy's founder Dave Thomas was born

Listening to 101.5 this morning?  

Arguably the greatest country song of all time.

Broke down a whole chicken and grilled with house made sauce. My method is sear til skin is crispy, sauce, and indirect until done. 

Seeing is believing

In the link is a study by FAU on facemasks published yesterday. There is 3 minute video in the report that shows the effects of coughing through different masks. You can see the droplets pathway through the air. 

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/

Interactive map that analyzes risk for every county in the US.

Rashida Jones from Parks and Rec

How about Indiana's own Jim Jones. Our state's had some real winners.  

1 hour ago, tdhoosier said:

Yes and no. First, all of these are all different viruses that have reproductive rates and different death rates. So you'll agree that these are all 'apples to oranges' comparisons. The Spanish Flu is most likely worse than Corona. The Asian and Hong Kong Flu are most likely not as worse as Corona....they killed 1 million each and Corona has a death toll of 500k and we're just in the beginning stages. 

However, concluding that wearing masks and limiting public gatherings didn't work during the Spanish Flu is not accurate. They did not quarantine well. They lacked the medical equipment and knowledge. And newspapers weren't allowed to report on the flu:

  https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

Edit (I hit 'post' too early): Regardless, while I understand your concern, I'm more concerned with the concerns of the experts who actually study this stuff for a living. Call me too trusting if you want. If you can find me a virologist or epidemiologist that thinks slowing this thing down isn't the best course of action then I'll reconsider my stance. 

 

Been following Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University.

Here is a recent interview from him article

I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, just provide and alternate viewpoint.  But I think extreme approaches like lockdowns or doing nothing are more harmful than good.  There has to be a reasonable response somewhere in the middle. 

@tdhoosier enjoy the chatting too.  

I very well could be wrong. Just to clarify why I have my position.  The measures we are taking today, mask wearing, lockdowns, are similar to what was done during the 1918 spanish flu and we can see how that went.

However, during the Asian flu and Hong Kong flu pandemics there we no lockdowns and merely suggested precautions and they ran their course and followed the normal distribution. Farrs law.

The Hong Kong flu still circulates as part of the regular flu season. 

My concern is this will be prolonged much longer than needed and cost more lives, virus and non-virus related, as a result. 

But ultimately, it's just venting on a message board. Just frustrating times we are living in. I would say let's skip 2020 but 2021 could be no better for all we know. 

I'm not disputing hospitalizations are increasing, just showing that hospitals are capable of handling it.

Hospital ICU's operate at 80%+ capacity regularly.

Slowing the spread is going to prolong this thing. Rolling lockdowns will push this in to next year.  

July 1, 1997 UK returns Hong Kong to China. And just yesterday China took away the last vestiges of freedom they had. 

Imagine being in your 40's or 50's growing up relatively free to have it stolen away. Sad. 

4 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

I really don’t understand the effort to find tweets and stuff like this from some attorney etc to try to spin things positively. You’d have to be living under a rock right now not to have heard how bad it got here quickly after Memorial Day, which is why the major counties and cities have gone to mandatory masks etc while Texas and the Houston area have hit record level hospitalizations now. Seriously this kind of tweet is absurdly misleading it’s just annoyingly stupid. I live here. I see the reports and statistics daily. I see colleagues who now have Covid deaths and illnesses in their families. I see the hospital capacity levels. This kind of misleading crap is just crap 

Apparently this got glossed over..

From the Texas Medical Center 

4 hours ago, IUFLA said:

Yeah, it's very doubtful I'll carry all the time, even though I will get a LTC. 

I'm not the kind that is going to pull it at the drop of a hat and swing it around like those dopey lawyers in St Louis (and I'd have been cool with them just coming out with their weapons, just not waving them around like drunken cowboys)...

I told my daughter's when they purchased guns...they're not for show or to "scare" somebody...if you pull it, you should be intending to use it to protect yourself and that's all...

I dont carry very often, I only take it with me when I go to Indy or Louisville and keep it in the truck. If I feel I need it I just avoid those types of places. 

From the Texas Medical Center

I guess gun handling and safety comes naturally to me since I have had experience with guns and hunting starting at the age of 5 and spent my childhood involved in scouting and hunting. Learned Coopers 4 rules from an age.  

1 hour ago, FKIM01 said:

Freaking crazy.

I have a federal firearms license that I got mostly for my personal collecting habit, but in the past 30 days, I've transferred about 70 guns...never seen anything like it.  My "shop" is not advertised, save a very basic website that has a phone number but no street address, so I really don't go out of my way to do business since it's just a sideline apart from my day job.  Several first-time owners in that mix too...all demographics.  I've got ideas what's driving a dramatic upswing in gun and ammo purchasing, but I'm not going to diverge from the topic.  I personally ankle-carry a Ruger LC9s with two extra mags, but I have several favorites if anyone is shopping and wants advice.

2 takeaways from that experience, #1 dont trust your neighbors, #2 I'm ready to drop the hammer.  Thank the lord myself and that officer were able to keep the booger hook off the bang switch.  

I feel people are starting to wise up and realize that nobody is coming to save them. We are responsible for ourselves.  

15 hours ago, Billingsley99 said:

When you are finished stop by by house. Last week I had to hand dig 16 holes each with 2 ft of concrete around each post. Got the new fence put up now the wife wants to add to the deck for the pool. Unfortunately cant find any 4x4 

If you  want some 4×4, I have about 6 that I dont need.  If we could find find a meeting place north of Seymour on hwy 11 I will give them to you. I don't need them. 

At no point in human history has anyone been prepared for a pandemic, we cannot and never have been able to to control nature.  Take the proper precautions and let it ride. Nothing we can do will stop it so let it ride.  

We cant experience another great depression because 1% of the US population might die.  

1 hour ago, BDB said:

So last October, a friday night. The wife and I had some drinks. Anyway, my neighbors and the parents that own the property nextdoor have been disputing the property line.  For brevity, I have adverse possession on my side and my 2nd cousin is the county surveyor.

But to get to the nitty gritty, 2 weeks before this happened I found evidence of someone trying to break in my house.  So I was armed and ready. Long story short, my neighbors swatted me.  They called the city police and told them I was outside shooting at my neighbors house. 

So am doing a number 1 at 130 in the morning and hear what sounds like someone kicking in my door. I come around the corner with an AR-15 Rifle and a cop pointing a pistol at me. My entrance is double glass french doors.  Saw him and dropped the rifle both hands in air. Was cuffed until 5 am. 

They searched my house and property and found nothing because I didn't do anything.  Still my choices we jail or they take my property and I get it back the next day. So they took it and I got it back. 

If you carry outside the house read up on force escalation.  The last thing I want to do is pull and use it. I would rather walk away or give a good ole country ass beating than use my sidearm. 

Also practice OPSEC.  Do not let your neighbors know that you own or what you own.

Have a story from last October if anyone wants to hear it. Im still here so it ended well but could it could have went sideways.

52 minutes ago, Leathernecks said:

What is education looking like in people's areas? In Illinois we're planning on opening in August with masks, as much distancing as possible, and other precautions, but I just don't see how we'll be able to do it in person.

We struggle to find subs for teachers in the best of times, and what is going to happen when kids and teachers start getting it? What's it looking like for everyone else?

I work with a guy who's wife is a teacher. He told me yesterday the plan is class monday and Tuesday, off Wednesday for deep cleaning, class thursday and friday. Masks mandatory and bathrooms cleaned, including by teachers, after every bathroom trip. If they do that I have a hard time seeing how they will have the time to teach.

Imagine trying to keep masks on 20 first graders and cleaning the bathroom after each use. Sounds exhausting.