btownqb Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Still top 25 in NET and KenPom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, btownqb said: It's a mockery of the game. Keady was annoying af to watch. I couldn't watch Indiana games if Woodson behaved remotely like that. I don't mind it and it actually gives some personality bto the game. Today everything is so sterile and button up in sports today and sports don't have no villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 The difference between Fran and the coaches I mentioned is that Fran acts like that the whole game where the others waited for certain times to act like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't mind it and it actually gives some personality bto the game. Today everything is so sterile and button up in sports today and sports don't have no villains. But you can have personality and charisma without behaving like a raving lunatic. There are more then just these two, but IMO guys like McCaffrey and Izzo act like petulant children on the sideline. It's embarrassing and they really should be ejected from almost every game they coach. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, IU Scott said: The difference between Fran and the coaches I mentioned is that Fran acts like that the whole game where the others waited for certain times to act like that. And those coaches have E8, FF and in 2 of those cases a Ntl title. Has Fran even reached the S16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Figured this might get buried in the Iowa post game thread so I'll post it here- https://www.yahoo.com/news/iowas-connor-mccaffery-iu-basketball-145633003.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Figured this might get buried in the Iowa post game thread so I'll post it here- https://www.yahoo.com/news/iowas-connor-mccaffery-iu-basketball-145633003.html Iowa's Connor McCaffery on IU basketball: 'I don't know if they'd ever seen (a zone) before.' Edited January 7, 2023 by Reacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Reacher said: Figured this might get buried in the Iowa post game thread so I'll post it here- https://www.yahoo.com/news/iowas-connor-mccaffery-iu-basketball-145633003.html Iowa's Connor McCaffery on IU basketball: 'I don't know if they'd ever seen (a zone) before.' We hung 89 on them. Their "zone" wasn't why we lost. We lost because we gave up 91, two starters were out a majority of the game, and Trayce could barely jump in the second half. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, rogue3542 said: We hung 89 on them. Their "zone" wasn't why we lost. We lost because we gave up 91, two starters were out a majority of the game, and Trayce could barely jump in the second half. Yeah, this zone stuff,... completely blow out of proportion. There were possessions we could have been better, almost undoubtedly. And we did stand late. But.. we scored 61 points like the last 30 mins of the game.. so while some possessions weren't good, the output was "fine". And CM comments are absolutely laughable. Iowa was giving up points at an epic rate when they were in man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 I hope Feb 28th is circled on the guys calendar bc the Iowa gave enough bulletin board material 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yeah, this zone stuff,... completely blow out of proportion. There were possessions we could have been better, almost undoubtedly. And we did stand late. But.. we scored 61 points like the last 30 mins of the game.. so while some possessions weren't good, the output was "fine". And CM comments are absolutely laughable. Iowa was giving up points at an epic rate when they were in man. That sad part is that a segment of the fanbase is going to absolutely run with McCaffrey's zone comments as a way to knock Woodson. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, BGleas said: That sad part is that a segment of the fanbase is going to absolutely run with McCaffrey zone comments as a way to knock Woodson. We've already seen that, for sure. Not saying anyone should value my opinion, but idk that CMs is one that I would, either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yeah, this zone stuff,... completely blow out of proportion. There were possessions we could have been better, almost undoubtedly. And we did stand late. But.. we scored 61 points like the last 30 mins of the game.. so while some possessions weren't good, the output was "fine". And CM comments are absolutely laughable. Iowa was giving up points at an epic rate when they were in man. Agree, defense was bad and hasn’t been that great all season. Even with XJ in the line up it hasn’t been spectacular. I just don’t understand the drop off from last season. Defense should be about effort and being in the right place. Were Phinnisee and Stewart that vital to our success? (Not asking you directly…just thinking out loud) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Agree, defense was bad and hasn’t been that great all season. Even with XJ in the line up it hasn’t been spectacular. I just don’t understand the drop off from last season. Defense should be about effort and being in the right place. Were Phinnisee and Stewart that vital to our success? (Not asking you directly…just thinking out loud) I think Phinisee was really overrated by many fans, but with that said he was a phenomenal defender, one of the best perimeter defenders in the Big Ten. Our lineup, when healthy, when Woodson would have XJ, Phinisee and Galloway in together was a great defensive lineup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Agree, defense was bad and hasn’t been that great all season. Even with XJ in the line up it hasn’t been spectacular. I just don’t understand the drop off from last season. Defense should be about effort and being in the right place. Were Phinnisee and Stewart that vital to our success? (Not asking you directly…just thinking out loud) It's still top 25 on kenpom... I agree, it's not at the level it was last season... but, in your opinion, its like "really bad"? Sorry just trying to get a feel for what you're saying. Is it possible the KU game, our offense, gave our D like zero chance in that game? Hope my tone is being conveyed decently here. I'm asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, btownqb said: It's still top 25 on kenpom... I agree, it's not at the level it was last season... but, in your opinion, its like "really bad"? Sorry just trying to get a feel for what you're saying. Is it possible the KU game, our offense, gave our D like zero chance in that game? Hope my tone is being conveyed decently here. I'm asking. I think our kenpom is a bit skewed because of the cupcakes in our non-conference schedule. Against Xavier, Arizona and Kansas we gave up 79, 89 and 84. We held UNC to 64, but they couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn and came in tired. I’m also not saying it’s really bad. It’s just average. And although our offense has improved, it is just average. Thus, we’re just an average team. Losing Race and XJ doesn’t help this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: I think our kenpom is a bit skewed because of the cupcakes in our non-conference schedule. Against Xavier, Arizona and Kansas we gave up 79, 89 and 84. We held UNC to 64, but they couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn and came in tired. I’m also not saying it’s really bad. It’s just average. And although our offense has improved, it is just average. Thus, we’re just an average team. Losing Race and XJ doesn’t help this. Our defense started to suffer beginning with JHS's injury. It hasn't been the same since - I really think all the injuries have thrown a wrench into our defensive schemes as well as our rotations. Every game we seem to have a new player or new set of players unable to play, all the players are having to adjust to different roles, and we haven't had enough stability to get back to the elite d we were playing early in the year. My supposition is that if we can get some stability in our lineups (even with our injuries), defense will improve as time goes on, but I doubt it's going to go back to what we started the year with until XJ is back at full health (if he gets back). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Who has a shot chart? I don’t recall IU just jacking up desperation 3’s all 2nd half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: It's still top 25 on kenpom... I agree, it's not at the level it was last season... but, in your opinion, its like "really bad"? Sorry just trying to get a feel for what you're saying. Is it possible the KU game, our offense, gave our D like zero chance in that game? Hope my tone is being conveyed decently here. I'm asking. We have been trending down. It was 31 yesterday morning, 30 today. I can't remember exactly but early in the season I think we were as low as 8. Clearly having guys hobbled and sitting out and now out for extended time is screwing us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 21 hours ago, btownqb said: Still top 25 in NET and KenPom One of eight teams top 30 in offense and defense on KenPom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: We have been trending down. It was 31 yesterday morning, 30 today. I can't remember exactly but early in the season I think we were as low as 8. Clearly having guys hobbled and sitting out and now out for extended time is screwing us up. Yeah we’ve had as bad of injury problems as any team in the country. Our four best players have all missed time - two may be done for the year and two will probably have to deal with their injuries all year. It is what it is and at this point all we can do is try to figure out how to best adjust, but that certainly has to be weighed in the performance of this team and program. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Yeah we’ve had as bad of injury problems as any team in the country. Our four best players have all missed time - two may be done for the year and two will probably have to deal with their injuries all year. It is what it is and at this point all we can do is try to figure out how to best adjust, but that certainly has to be weighed in the performance of this team and program. Everybody just looks at the games missed due to injuries. What probably hurts worse is that injuries kills you when it comes to practice time. If you don't have your players in practice then it hurts your ability to get better as a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Anyone know the timeline on what out indefinitely means? IU just released that's where Race is. I know they have to protect him, his privacy, potential overseas options to earn $ next year but man I'd love a little more clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Anyone know the timeline on what out indefinitely means? IU just released that's where Race is. I know they have to protect him, his privacy, potential overseas options to earn $ next year but man I'd love a little more clarity. Means no set timeframe for return. Could be 1 game could be he never comes back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 This says he'll return this season February maybe... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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