Artesian_86 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Interesting.... Coach Allen talks about what he's wanting for next year's team...... https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: If Chris on BTB is correct and they offer new coach 7-9 million salary plus major facility upgrades, I would hope they could lure someone decent. However, I have a feeling Dolson will go after a bigger name or two and get rebuffed and then settle. My gut is thinking Dolson will end up hiring Matt Canada. He just lost his job with Steelers, has the IU connection, and would most likely take the job. It wouldn't be my ideal choice, but I can easily see it happening. I hope you are not right. Canada just screams like the easiest but far from the best hire. He's basically been fired from every important job he's had. Which leads me to believe he's a good guy and a good interviewer. Can't fall for that. IU connections are important, but we need a good coach. But alas, who wants the job and who can build a staff. If it is indeed Canada or someone like Frye, I hope they can build a good staff. I think that's the most important piece of the puzzle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: I hope you are not right. Canada just screams like the easiest but far from the best hire. He's basically been fired from every important job he's had. Which leads me to believe he's a good guy and a good interviewer. Can't fall for that. IU connections are important, but we need a good coach. But alas, who wants the job and who can build a staff. If it is indeed Canada or someone like Frye, I hope they can build a good staff. I think that's the most important piece of the puzzle. I hope I am not right as well. It is just a gut feeling, but I can very easily see it happening. Staff is definitely going to be important, especially if they bring in someone like Canada/Frye etc. with no head coaching experience. We all watched what happened the last few years at IU once DeBoer left for Washington. If it is true Dolson can spend 7-9 million on head coach, I hope he is spending big on coordinators/assistants as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Naturalhoosier said: Is that $20m up front? Or amortized over the course of x # of years? The latter makes the financial pill much easier to swallow. It is paid in increments over the years left on the contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Canada would be the most IU footballish hire since Tom Allen. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: Canada would be the most IU footballish hire since Tom Allen. Exactly. Do not fall for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturalhoosier Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: It is paid in increments over the years left on the contract I believe his current contract runs through 2026? $20m over 3 years. ~$6.7m/per year. That's easier for the administration to swallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Why on earth would anyone pay Matt Canada $7M.!? The point isn’t to pay anyone with a pulse a big salary. It’s to use the money to lure a coach who knows how to run an entire operation with a high degree of competency. If Canada is what the rumor is out there for big money, that’s the biggest nightmare yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, BobSaccamanno said: Why on earth would anyone pay Matt Canada $7M.!? The point isn’t to pay anyone with a pulse a big salary. It’s to use the money to lure a coach who knows how to run an entire operation with a high degree of competency. If Canada is what the rumor is out there for big money, that’s the biggest nightmare yet. I don’t think there is actually a rumor at all that Canada is an option. I think people are just talking because Canada was let go. People are letting their fear get the better of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, thirdgenhoosier said: I don’t think there is actually a rumor at all that Canada is an option. I think people are just talking because Canada was let go. People are letting their fear get the better of them. Whew. I just googled it and he’s apparently making $1.5 M for the Steelers and just got fired. No need to even consider him let alone pay him big $$. Personally I’m not enthusiastic about focusing on a guy with IU connections. We don’t need to be provincial about it. Get the best guy based on a national search. There are a lot of good names out there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Artesian_86 said: Interesting.... Coach Allen talks about what he's wanting for next year's team...... https://247sports.com/college/indiana/article/indiana-iu-hoosiers-football-tom-allen-plan-priorities-offseason-220969217/ CTA just made the case for why he shouldn’t be retained. Why would donors step up big for more of the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 16 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: CTA just made the case for why he shouldn’t be retained. Why would donors step up big for more of the same? God willing it will be C'YA for CTA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 I like Tom Allen as a guy a lot. But it doesn’t matter what I say or think. The 3-23 record is the answer to all questions. Regarding money, fans are used to a different system. If they feel like paying out the buyout and paying for a new coach and staff plus new facilities, they can do it. There is a new President who understands all this. This isn’t McRobbie anymore. She didn’t hire Tom Allen. That 3-23 record is sitting in front of her with an expanded B1G coming. IU can do whatever they want if they have a plan to move on somebody. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 1:29 PM, FritzIam4IU said: If Chris on BTB is correct and they offer new coach 7-9 million salary plus major facility upgrades, I would hope they could lure someone decent. However, I have a feeling Dolson will go after a bigger name or two and get rebuffed and then settle. My gut is thinking Dolson will end up hiring Matt Canada. He just lost his job with Steelers, has the IU connection, and would most likely take the job. It wouldn't be my ideal choice, but I can easily see it happening. They have to at least try. This is what I have been saying, to compete in the 2024 new BIG they have to show a commitment like they have never given. I appreciate you all relaying what’s on BTB as I don’t frequent there much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 10:04 PM, Steubenhoosier said: Oregon State has been very competitive and they have been left behind by the conference they play in. Wonder if their coach would listen? On 11/18/2023 at 10:11 PM, BobSaccamanno said: He’s an interesting name. He played at Oregon State too so it’s his alma mater. They are also paying him well. The conference issue has to sting though so you never know. Looks like he is about to land at Michigan St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 Sorry, but this is funny 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 17 hours ago, Parakeet Jones said: Looks like he is about to land at Michigan St. that is a bummer, I really like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 Thank you Tom! Time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 I like Tom the person but as a coach it looks like the Bill Lynch years. If/when IU moves on I hope he finds a DC job somewhere at a p5 school because that is what he's best at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU247 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Moving this here to keep the coaching search thread separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) So just my own two cents here. Some complain that IU won’t spend money for football. After two great years IU gave a really nice extension to Tom Allen investing in the program. Yes the buyout might have been a bit much but there was an investment there. Now they don’t let let a huge buyout prevent them from moving forward. We will see what comes next but at least right now this does not seem to be IU administration of old when it comes to money and football. Edited November 26, 2023 by thirdgenhoosier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) No McCulley, Cooper, Sorsby, Lucas in the portal 🙏🙏 Edited November 26, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: No McCulley, Cooper, Sorsby, Lucas in the portal 🙏🙏 I’ve been told McCulley wants to stay but that he also wants an NIL deal. I’d say he has earned it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFan997 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, btownqb said: No McCulley, Cooper, Sorsby, Lucas in the portal 🙏🙏 I was told Cincinnati has been recruiting Sorsby pretty damn hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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