D-BONE Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 Seems to me ST coach should be on the chopping block and need a home run hire at OC too. Regardless, but particularly if Allen is spared and given his final year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 I like how in 3 years Allen went from going for 2 in OT because he was sick and tired of being close to playing for a tie on the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, TheWatShot said: I like how in 3 years Allen went from going for 2 in OT because he was sick and tired of being close to playing for a tie on the road. It really is amazing. On the road, favored to lose by 30+ and you're within striking distance of a win with 3 minutes to go.... don't go conservative! FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 Absolutely horrendous play calling and not going for the win. The whole thing is pathetic. Onward to basketball season I can’t even watch anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 11:00 AM, MoyeCowbell said: It really is amazing. On the road, favored to lose by 30+ and you're within striking distance of a win with 3 minutes to go.... don't go conservative! FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/indiana-football-coaching-staff-tom-allen-rod-carey-matt-guerrieri-regret-late-game-decisions-at-penn-state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Reacher said: https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/indiana-football-coaching-staff-tom-allen-rod-carey-matt-guerrieri-regret-late-game-decisions-at-penn-state Fair or not, no one is going to remember (or really care) about the coaching staff's hindsight and 'what if' pontifications. It's about stepping up in the moment, when the lights are brightest, and delivering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Night before a home game against the rodents and no game thread. Apathy has taken over.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 I know it's a long shot but we have 4 winnable games left on the schedule. Our run to bowl eligibility starts today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I know it's a long shot but we have 4 winnable games left on the schedule. Our run to bowl eligibility starts today. you my friend are my fav. Hoosier fans. no matter how bad it really is, we can always win out for a bowl game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I know it's a long shot but we have 4 winnable games left on the schedule. Our run to bowl eligibility starts today. Love the optimism; it's all we have as Hoosier fans. 4 winnable games. Let's see who still wants it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 If IU wins today and wins the very winnable rest of the games….. is that enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, ledies22 said: If IU wins today and wins the very winnable rest of the games….. is that enough? Enough for what? Retaining Allen?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ledies22 said: If IU wins today and wins the very winnable rest of the games….. is that enough? I doubt he’s gone regardless of how the season ends tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: I doubt he’s gone regardless of how the season ends tbh. I think so too there’s three things 1) CTA doesn’t control the offense. With the change they played a tough half against Michigan, a full game against PSU, and in this scenario win 1 game we weren’t supposed to in Wisconsin, and then 3 more games against toss ups. 2) buyout 3) who’s his replacement. Not listed in order of importance. Edited November 4, 2023 by ledies22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I doubt he’s gone regardless of how the season ends tbh. From what I have read, the buyout drops by $12 M in one year.  Don’t know if that’s real dollars.  My guess is he stays and he tosses the ST coach into the volcano as a sacrificial lamb.  Then next year you have a young ascending QB and a number that may allow enough room to pay bigger to the next guy if that’s where it’s going.  A big issue is who the next guy will be as Purdue is seeing post Brohm.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: From what I have read, the buyout drops by $12 M in one year.  Don’t know if that’s real dollars.  My guess is he stays and he tosses the ST coach into the volcano as a sacrificial lamb.  Then next year you have a young ascending QB and a number that may allow enough room to pay bigger to the next guy if that’s where it’s going.  A big issue is who the next guy will be as Purdue is seeing post Brohm.  All good points. I think Purdue tried something different with Walters and it’s too early to write him off IMO. But I think they took a chance on someone who could possibly recruit better than other guys they could’ve brought in. Jury’s still out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: All good points. I think Purdue tried something different with Walters and it’s too early to write him off IMO. But I think they took a chance on someone who could possibly recruit better than other guys they could’ve brought in. Jury’s still out. Agree.  Way too early.  The ND coach had a rocky start and is turning it around.  I’d be concerned and cautious that he’s a Hazel but he’s got time to improve and prove himself.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Oh win, lose or draw Allen comes back. If it were me, the AD would be paying the buyout with his pay, but thats just me being nice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: Agree.  Way too early.  The ND coach had a rocky start and is turning it around.  I’d be concerned and cautious that he’s a Hazel but he’s got time to improve and prove himself.  That comparison has come up a lot on our boards and it makes me laugh. Hazell got blown out almost every game and couldn’t recruit worth a lick haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: That comparison has come up a lot on our boards and it makes me laugh. Hazell got blown out almost every game and couldn’t recruit worth a lick haha. It’s not the blowouts it’s that he looks overwhelmed in terms of running a big operation.  That’s a big step for him.  Lot of moving parts and that’s where he and Hazel look similar.  He’s got time though.  He may get there.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: It’s not the blowouts it’s that he looks overwhelmed in terms of running a big operation.  That’s a big step for him.  Lot of moving parts and that’s where he and Hazel look similar.  He’s got time though.  He may get there.  Needs to bring in someone with experience/AHC next year to help with that IMO. Good call. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Gonna be a great day when IU wins and PUke and ND lose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Cam Camper is out for the season. Â He had a procedure on the same knee that had the ACL injury last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 hours ago, thirdgenhoosier said: Cam Camper is out for the season.  He had a procedure on the same knee that had the ACL injury last year. Such a shame. I feel like his talent has been mostly wasted at IU. He'll have some amazing catches, then be forgotten. A competent OC would've made sure he had numerous targets every game. He's one of the few guys we have that you can throw it up in his area, and let him go get it. I wish him a full and speedy recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 9:15 AM, Hoosierinbham said: Such a shame. I feel like his talent has been mostly wasted at IU. He'll have some amazing catches, then be forgotten. A competent OC would've made sure he had numerous targets every game. He's one of the few guys we have that you can throw it up in his area, and let him go get it. I wish him a full and speedy recovery. IU seems to have a couples guys a year with some talent, but the subsequent players need to be a bit better to help support. Seems like we have wasted quite a bit of talent at times without enough talented support. wouldnt be surprised if Lucas is gone after this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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