rico Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: With zero expectations, an overhauled roster, and coaching staff (to some degree), it could be a bad season, but not sure how it could be any worse than the past couple. If nothing else we'll really see what CTA's really made of as a head coach. I am anxious to see how both lines are as much as anything. If both are improved, they'll be ok. QB should be fun to watch I think. Both are going to play. If we are horrible.......Go Irish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Dave Revsine was at scrimmage today. People can find his comments on twitter but highlighted the WR corp, transfers we added....but didn't give glowing reviews (or it seemed that way) about either QB. I swear if we have another season of which guy should play while watching Penix throw for 4k I'm just going to accept that's just the way it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 I like IU football but admittedly don't follow them as close as most of you. I'm a PSU football fan and consider IU my 2nd team. With that said, I think what's frustrating is that it seems like Allen has recruited as well as anyone previously has at IU, maybe even better. But given the division IU is in, it doesn't really matter. There is no way IU is going to recruit in football to the level of OSU, PSU or Michigan. It's even tough to recruit to fhe level of MSU or Maryland. Put IU in the other division and you probably have a pretty consistent bowl team. Once you're a consistent bowl team then it's easier to up the recruiting a level from there. There's just no realistic path to that given the division IU is in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: I like IU football but admittedly don't follow them as close as most of you. I'm a PSU football fan and consider IU my 2nd team. With that said, I think what's frustrating is that it seems like Allen has recruited as well as anyone previously has at IU, maybe even better. But given the division IU is in, it doesn't really matter. There is no way IU is going to recruit in football to the level of OSU, PSU or Michigan. It's even tough to recruit to fhe level of MSU or Maryland. Put IU in the other division and you probably have a pretty consistent bowl team. Once you're a consistent bowl team then it's easier to up the recruiting a level from there. There's just no realistic path to that given the division IU is in. Strongly agree with all of this. I would also say stubbornly holding on to Hiller, hiring DeBord as OC, Warren as DC, and only having Bazelak as an option last year really hampered us. We could add Penix having multiple injuries, but those weren't a choice Allen made. The cards are stacked against any IU football coach with current divisions, but CTA has definitely contributed with some poor decisions. That being said, I'll still watch every game and hope they can make some noise this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, BGleas said: I like IU football but admittedly don't follow them as close as most of you. I'm a PSU football fan and consider IU my 2nd team. With that said, I think what's frustrating is that it seems like Allen has recruited as well as anyone previously has at IU, maybe even better. But given the division IU is in, it doesn't really matter. There is no way IU is going to recruit in football to the level of OSU, PSU or Michigan. It's even tough to recruit to fhe level of MSU or Maryland. Put IU in the other division and you probably have a pretty consistent bowl team. Once you're a consistent bowl team then it's easier to up the recruiting a level from there. There's just no realistic path to that given the division IU is in. Exactly! IU having a top 10 schedule every year is insane…Good thing is it all ends next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 21 hours ago, BGleas said: I like IU football but admittedly don't follow them as close as most of you. I'm a PSU football fan and consider IU my 2nd team. With that said, I think what's frustrating is that it seems like Allen has recruited as well as anyone previously has at IU, maybe even better. But given the division IU is in, it doesn't really matter. There is no way IU is going to recruit in football to the level of OSU, PSU or Michigan. It's even tough to recruit to fhe level of MSU or Maryland. Put IU in the other division and you probably have a pretty consistent bowl team. Once you're a consistent bowl team then it's easier to up the recruiting a level from there. There's just no realistic path to that given the division IU is in. I think it’d be very interesting to see what IU and Purdue would’ve looked like if they had been flip-flopped in divisions. I know IU’s record against the West isn’t great but I think you can attribute a good amount of that to having to play against the East and getting worn down over the season. if I had to guess, I’d say they would’ve probably been on par with Purdue the last 4 or 5 years IMO. I think one of IU’s biggest challenges in the next few seasons will be in-state recruiting. ND/OSU will always pluck the top guys every year but it feels like your in-state recruiting has dried up a bit at least in terms of guys with multiple P5 offers. And I don’t think that’ll change a ton until/unless Allen can turn things around in the win column IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) On 8/13/2023 at 2:50 PM, Stlboiler23 said: I think it’d be very interesting to see what IU and Purdue would’ve looked like if they had been flip-flopped in divisions. I know IU’s record against the West isn’t great but I think you can attribute a good amount of that to having to play against the East and getting worn down over the season. if I had to guess, I’d say they would’ve probably been on par with Purdue the last 4 or 5 years IMO. I think one of IU’s biggest challenges in the next few seasons will be in-state recruiting. ND/OSU will always pluck the top guys every year but it feels like your in-state recruiting has dried up a bit at least in terms of guys with multiple P5 offers. And I don’t think that’ll change a ton until/unless Allen can turn things around in the win column IMO. Seems like higher Indiana recruits have totally fizzled out once on campus. Just as concerning to me is our Florida pipeline has cooled considerably. I think it's a combination of lack of recent success and lack of player development of those recent recruits. I also think the rah rah and religious stuff gets old quickly if there are no tangible results on the filed or in the draft. Success on the field and in the draft is going to drive recruits more than anything else. Edited August 17, 2023 by OGIUAndy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFan997 Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Anyone heard anything about the scrimmage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 3:50 PM, Stlboiler23 said: I think it’d be very interesting to see what IU and Purdue would’ve looked like if they had been flip-flopped in divisions. I know IU’s record against the West isn’t great but I think you can attribute a good amount of that to having to play against the East and getting worn down over the season. if I had to guess, I’d say they would’ve probably been on par with Purdue the last 4 or 5 years IMO. I think one of IU’s biggest challenges in the next few seasons will be in-state recruiting. ND/OSU will always pluck the top guys every year but it feels like your in-state recruiting has dried up a bit at least in terms of guys with multiple P5 offers. And I don’t think that’ll change a ton until/unless Allen can turn things around in the win column IMO. IU had some really good assistant coaches there for a while. DeBoer was probably the best coach we have ever had. Wommack, Hart, etc. Our coaching the last two years has been pathetic. We need to pony up some bucks better coaching and the wins and better players will follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Common Sense said: IU had some really good assistant coaches there for a while. DeBoer was probably the best coach we have ever had. Wommack, Hart, etc. Our coaching the last two years has been pathetic. We need to pony up some bucks better coaching and the wins and better players will follow. Are there many higher-paid OLCs than Bostad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Common Sense said: IU had some really good assistant coaches there for a while. DeBoer was probably the best coach we have ever had. Wommack, Hart, etc. Our coaching the last two years has been pathetic. We need to pony up some bucks better coaching and the wins and better players will follow. Losing our best assistant coaches over the last few years has been detrimental…I think we may have found ourselves a great O line coach now…not sure how long he stays…Jury still out on the O coordinator and D coordinator… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Common Sense said: IU had some really good assistant coaches there for a while. DeBoer was probably the best coach we have ever had. Wommack, Hart, etc. Our coaching the last two years has been pathetic. We need to pony up some bucks better coaching and the wins and better players will follow. Yep that’s valid those were solid assistants who left. I feel like it’s always been tough at places like IU and Purdue to keep really good assistants from jumping to bigger opportunities. Just have to hope the drop-off isn’t too steep. When we lost JaMarcus Shepherd to Washington our recruiting and WR play fell off a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 hours ago, btownqb said: Are there many higher-paid OLCs than Bostad? How much is he making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: How much is he making? https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/sports/college/iu/2023/07/31/indiana-football-new-contract-details-for-offseason-hires-returning-assistants/70442128007/ base salary is $400,000, total $650,000. Just a bit less than our OC. https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-paid-offensive-line-coaches-in-college-football-2023-edition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 https://www.on3.com/news/nbc-peacock-exclusive-broadcast-2023-season-michigan-ohio-state-iowa-wisconsin-notre-dame/ No IU games on NBC or Peacock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just got an email from AD Scott Dolsen with a Memorial Stadium Modernization survey. Didn’t ask for a donation… yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: Just got an email from AD Scott Dolsen with a Memorial Stadium Modernization survey. Didn’t ask for a donation… yet. Checked my email, yep I have one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 I filled my survey out, was some interesting ideas but all I kept thinking was win and people will sit on a line cone all game. But personally I would love more stadium seating with more leg room and a cup holder so my wife can stop spilling her beer every game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) I kept responding yeah that sounds cool, then seeing the proposes prices ummmmm yeah I'm out! lmao Paying anything north of $100 for a IU football game isn't in my mind unless we are playing for a Big Ten title or a big bowl game or something. But if I had the money, sure the premium options look attractive. I just am very skeptical at anyone wanting to put up that kind of money for premium options given our overall performance on the field. Chicken or egg argument, possibly. Idk Edited August 19, 2023 by bronkonagurski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) On 8/19/2023 at 2:27 AM, bronkonagurski said: I kept responding yeah that sounds cool, then seeing the proposes prices ummmmm yeah I'm out! lmao Paying anything north of $100 for a IU football game isn't in my mind unless we are playing for a Big Ten title or a big bowl game or something. But if I had the money, sure the premium options look attractive. I just am very skeptical at anyone wanting to put up that kind of money for premium options given our overall performance on the field. Chicken or egg argument, possibly. Idk Where is all the TV money going if they are still asking fans to poney up more than a $100 to watch a MAC quality product play a B1G schedule. Edited August 20, 2023 by dgambill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 2:27 AM, bronkonagurski said: I kept responding yeah that sounds cool, then seeing the proposes prices ummmmm yeah I'm out! lmao Paying anything north of $100 for a IU football game isn't in my mind unless we are playing for a Big Ten title or a big bowl game or something. But if I had the money, sure the premium options look attractive. I just am very skeptical at anyone wanting to put up that kind of money for premium options given our overall performance on the field. Chicken or egg argument, possibly. Idk This pretty much summed up my thought. I pretty much said no to everything but the stadium seating, but even then I was like I am not sure this is a cost I want to pay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 8:51 AM, dgambill said: Where is all the TV money going if they are still asking fans to poney up more than a $100 to watch a MAC quality product play a B1G schedule. Good question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 2:27 AM, bronkonagurski said: I kept responding yeah that sounds cool, then seeing the proposes prices ummmmm yeah I'm out! lmao Paying anything north of $100 for a IU football game isn't in my mind unless we are playing for a Big Ten title or a big bowl game or something. But if I had the money, sure the premium options look attractive. I just am very skeptical at anyone wanting to put up that kind of money for premium options given our overall performance on the field. Chicken or egg argument, possibly. Idk I haven't understood IU's football pricing for years now. It does nothing to encourage people on the fence to go to games. We are getting ready to move to Tucson, and I'm going to sorely miss IU football and tailgating, so I was looking into what Arizona does with their football tickets. You can get expensive seats, sure, but you can also get just dirt cheap season tickets. I want to say you could get a season ticket for $89. Even Purdue figured out that you need to sell some dirt cheap tickets to get people into the games before you can start raising prices once the team starts winning more. IU has been doing a lot right in the last several years to try to improve the football program, but this is a very basic thing that they seem to be entirely unwilling to do. Also, they need to clear the tailgate fields out once the game starts; there's way too much of a culture of never going to the game that we need to break (as well as leaving at halftime). Let's start by selling the cheap seats that never sell for $5. Also, no pass outs; you don't need to go back to your tailgate at halftime or during the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Seems pretty quiet around here considering IUFB starts in less than two weeks. I know people are pessimistic, but if there's any time to have some hope it's before the season starts. Go Hoosiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said: Seems pretty quiet around here considering IUFB starts in less than two weeks. I know people are pessimistic, but if there's any time to have some hope it's before the season starts. Go Hoosiers The problem is that we start the season vs OSU and know we will start 0-1 and probably by 35+ points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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