HoosierDom Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: Kind of where I am. Sure, XJ had a bad game, but how much of it is because he was getting elbowed in the throat every other play, and then getting ghost foul calls on him at the other end? You can say he needs to rise above it, and you'd be right, but at this point, we know who he is; emotion is a big part of his game. And Reneau should not have fouled out at all. 2-3 of the fouls on him were such terrible, terrible calls. If just those two things aren't perpetrated by the refs, I think this is a single digit loss, and everyone's tune is much different. The only things that I found really disappointing today are: - Rebounding - Mgbako- just not even any effort at all, terrible shots, completely lost on defense. If you took away his recruiting ranking, everyone would be wondering why he played AT ALL - The lack of fight after Reneau fouled out - we folded like a cheap suit I don't need to bother writing. This is the sum up. Nothing more to say until we beat Louisville tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I don't need to bother writing. This is the sum up. Nothing more to say until we beat Louisville tomorrow. If we beat them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, 5fouls said: My thoughts The refs did not cost IU the game by any means, but they were determined not to let IU win it. IU fans need to stop making excuses for Mgbako. There are freshman all ove teh country making positive contributions to their team. he is not. IU has ZERO depth. Nobody off the bench provides consistently reliable minutes. and, yes, I'm including Cupps in that. Walker should not be in the rotation. I try really hard to let Woodson coach, but I truly don't understand why he does not play Leal at all. X needs to control his emotions on the court. The officials are not going to give you the benefit of the doubt if you visibly complain about every call. This is a second division team in a watered down Big Ten. Very disappointed in the energy and effort after Reneau fouled out. There is alot of "Stars " on the team..doesn't translate to the game...gonna be a long year...be lucky to beat Louisville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Thoroughly outclassed. The stat sheet is as ugly as the final score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: A senior hometown scholarship player should get in the last couple of minutes of a 20-point blowout, especially when the guys who were on the floor, for the most part, were playing poorly. That’s fair. Just don’t think he’s done anything to warrant many non-mop up minutes. And I’d imagine if he looked good in practice, he would be in the rotation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Six weeks ago we were going to be a solid 10 deep rotation. Today we are poorly constructed? How did that happen? We all agree we desperately needed shooters after last year, but isn’t that what MM and Cupps were supposed to be? Today I understand what the Duck fans were saying about Ware. I did however think Gunn logged some very solid defensive minutes and the shots he took were within the flow of the game. I really do think those will start to fall. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Whats your thoughts on why Leal doesn’t get playing time even in scrap minutes? I for one, would rather play Leal over Walker. Have no idea why we don’t play Leal over Walker..Walker is a worse version of Banks. Leal provides shooting we desperately need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, Reacher said: Discuss away Any idea how many possessions Indiana and UConn each had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, IU_Realist said: End of the day it’s poor roster construction. It still amazes me we pass on guards that can shoot, etc for other players and then miss out on everyone. I haven’t been a fan of Woodson since he was hired and still am not. Offense has always been horrible to watch. It felt like every time Spencer let it fly, it was going in. Do we have anyone even close to that…No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Give UConn credit they were much more physical than us, and the refs let them get away with it, so they took advantage and pounded us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BGleas Posted November 19, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I've never seen what some of you see in CJ Gunn, but I think at this point we need to start Gunn, completely bench Walker and let Mgbako be Reneau's backup at the 4. At least Gunn tried on defense today. A shame that's were we're at with that spot. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) The outcome wasn’t a surprise, and a lot to critique, but I still think we’re a tournament team by March. Let’s see what we do tomorrow night. Edited November 19, 2023 by Hoosier4Life53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I've never seen what some of you see in CJ Gunn, but I think at this point we need to start Gunn, completely bench Walker and let Mgbako be Reneau's backup at the 4. At least Gunn tired on defense today. A shame that's were we're at with that spot. I honestly would have some hope if I felt Woodson would make some changes, including on the offensive end but he’s proven time and time again that he’s not capable of making the changes everyone else sees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Parakeet Jones Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BGleas said: I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I've never seen what some of you see in CJ Gunn, but I think at this point we need to start Gunn, completely bench Walker and let Mgbako be Reneau's backup at the 4. At least Gunn tired on defense today. A shame that's were we're at with that spot. I don’t know the answer, but we have to try something different against Louisville tomorrow. RMK would sit Mgbako and send a message. Edited November 19, 2023 by Parakeet Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, Hoosier987 said: I honestly would have some hope if I felt Woodson would make some changes, including on the offensive end but he’s proven time and time again that he’s not capable of making the changes everyone else sees. It will be interesting to see, because Mgbako is unplayable at this point, especially if you're not even going to try and involve him in the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: At least Gunn tired on defense today. A shame that's were we're at with that spot. I didn't think he looked tired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyHoosier Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 77 in Kenpom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 minute ago, IndyHoosier said: 77 in Kenpom While Kenpom is always a little wonky to start the season, we've dropped 27 spots. That's horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: Squaring this reality with the foul discrepancy is wild to me. We were driving every play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Louisville looks better than us. Tomorrow might be a rough game no matter who IU plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said: Squaring this reality with the foul discrepancy is wild to me. We were driving every play. Yeah, the officiating was atrocious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Ouch… not any angrier than I was after the last game as I expected a 20 point beat down. Others have already pointed it out, but good grief this roster is bad. *Can’t shoot, have ZERO shooters - Mgbako is bad at everything. *Can’t rebound - what’s the IU record for most OR given up in a season. KW and MR have arguably been two of our better players, but it’s not good enough on the boards. *No bench - First game I felt GC was outmatched. Banks and Walker are terrible in all fashions. Gunn and Sparks have moments, but aren’t good enough. *XJ can’t lead this team if he can’t control his emotions or play under control. Can’t act like a clown every time he fouls somebody, good call or not. *Yes, officiating was bad, but not why we got drubbed. I was satisfied with the effort and result for 30 minutes, which gives me hope this team can get better. However, it doesn’t appear our shortcomings are going anywhere anytime soon. Hope we don’t find a new low tomorrow and lose to Louisville. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 TJD and JHS covered so many flaws with this team 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 Gunn earned more minutes Rebounding has to get better. Johnson must be better. quit complaining about every call and no call MM has to give us something or see less minutes Needs to learn to play hard all of the time The refs killed us. They took Reneau and Johnson out of the game with their calls. Not why we lost but game would have been a lot closer if called evenly. A lot of touch fouls on drives and around the basket for uconn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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