rico Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: 😳 glad you aren't in charge Whatever dude. You appear to be the resident expert here on everything football. Have at it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: That is sad if that is the case. I would look at the guy at Toledo or a smaller conference HC Really stupid for any of them to come here, but yeah, I would too. Edited November 26, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, rico said: Whatever dude. You appear to be the resident expert here on everything football. Have at it. Actually.. YOU told me I was the dumb one, that's literally how this started 🤷♂️... I apologize for waking up on a Sunday and posting on a message board 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, DustyPL said: thank god, i never liked his goofy face cheering when were done 40 points, outside of one fluke season he did nothing for the program. I’ll sleep better every night from now on knowing ill never have to see him clapping and smiling every time we turn the ball over or give up a big play. RIP Tom Strong disagree. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 20 million to fire him, that's a solid commitment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Wommack is an interesting prospect. 100% think it'd be a stepping stone for an SEC job for him, though. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyPL Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said: Strong disagree. id love to know what qualities about tom were so endearing to you, was it his smokers voice at every press conference or the cheerleading down 40? I gave him credit for his one good season but ill give most of the credit for that year to penix and debeor. Outside of that recruiting and development have been subpar and the cordinator hires have been below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Chris Creighton should absolutely get a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: Wommack is an interesting prospect. 100% think it'd be a stepping stone for an SEC job for him, though. 🤷♂️ I don't think he would come here due to his loyalty to Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I don't think he would come here due to his loyalty to Allen Nah. You keep saying that. But if he enjoyed his time here and his run as DC and wants his shot to be HC at a Big Ten school he’d come. Loyalty doesn’t run that deep. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't think he would come here due to his loyalty to Allen Huh? We would pay him 4x+ what he's making now. Not sold he'd even take it though. Edited November 26, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 My educated guess at this point in time is Paul Chryst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 It do get testy during a coaching hire I will say this, ain't an Xs and Os football coach guru alive that can compete in the Big 10 with 1 and 2 star players...Just can't...Jimmys and Joes and all of that... That's why I say the donors are going to have a big voice in this...without NIL money, we're sunk from the get-go... Who would they support? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, DC2345 said: My educated guess at this point in time is Paul Chryst We could do a lot worse but I wouldn't be very excited. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, DustyPL said: id love to know what qualities about tom were so endearing to you, was it his smokers voice at every press conference or the cheerleading down 40? I gave him credit for his one good season but ill give most of the credit for that year to penix and debeor. Outside of that recruiting and development have been subpar and the cordinator hires have been below average. Well, Allen did recruit Penix. He did hire DeBoer and Wommack and others... He did provide a sense of leadership that came with integrity and passion. I think his time ran out. I am all for a change because he unfortunately didn't get it done. But to sit back and throw dirt on his name because he's gone is more of a reflection on the naysayers than him. He didn't work out. Really sucks. And so we move on. But he did show us what's capable. He did make us believe that success can be attained here. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, btownqb said: Really stupid for any of them to come here, but yeah, I would too. Just like when the Buffalo coach went to Kansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said: Well, Allen did recruit Penix. He did hire DeBoer and Wommack and others... He did provide a sense of leadership that came with integrity and passion. I think his time ran out. I am all for a change because he unfortunately didn't get it done. But to sit back and throw dirt on his name because he's gone is more of a reflection on the naysayers than him. He didn't work out. Really sucks. And so we move on. But he did show us what's capable. He did make us believe that success can be attained here. My wife and I spent New Years+ 1 day at a January bowl game in FL against a SEC school. Never thought IUFB would be in a spot to be able to experience that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, KDB said: We could do a lot worse but I wouldn't be very excited. That said nothing is a done deal but this isn’t going to be a long hiring process. There are others involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: That said nothing is a done deal but this isn’t going to be a long hiring process. There are others involved I am afraid if it is a real quick search it will be Fuentes or Carey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, IUFLA said: It do get testy during a coaching hire I will say this, ain't an Xs and Os football coach guru alive that can compete in the Big 10 with 1 and 2 star players...Just can't...Jimmys and Joes and all of that... That's why I say the donors are going to have a big voice in this...without NIL money, we're sunk from the get-go... Who would they support? I guess my email worked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyPL Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said: Well, Allen did recruit Penix. He did hire DeBoer and Wommack and others... He did provide a sense of leadership that came with integrity and passion. I think his time ran out. I am all for a change because he unfortunately didn't get it done. But to sit back and throw dirt on his name because he's gone is more of a reflection on the naysayers than him. He didn't work out. Really sucks. And so we move on. But he did show us what's capable. He did make us believe that success can be attained here. I agree that he helped show that you can be successful here but I think most of his success can be accounted to dumb luck. He only got Penix because we missed out on a transfer qb and were still in the market when Tennessee had a head coaching change and no longer valued Penix’s commitment, then Penix turned to FSU who also had just gone through a coaching change and werent ready to offer him. Im not sure about Wommack but I know he only hired Deboer because he was personally recommended by his good buddy Chris Creighton. So I guess you can say he hit a hot streak and showed you can have success but overall he wasnt a good coach and couldnt sustain that success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BGleas Posted November 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 This is the perfect time for this change. Honestly, I think the best thing to happen to IU Football in probably two decades or so is the move the Big Ten has made to go away from divisions. You can now sell this program to a coach minus the restraint of basically 3 guaranteed losses each year before you even start. I might get a lot of pushbask on this, but IMO IU was one of, if not the hardest jobs to sell because of the division it has played in. With a higher level of financial commitment and a more manageable schedule, the potential to unlock this program is more palpable. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Dylan Powell is going off on IU admin today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFan997 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Sounds a lot like Paul Chryst is the favorite, he’s had winning programs in the Big Ten but a lot of concern how the Wisconsin style of play would translate to IU. At the very least I’d have faith he could recruit better o-line play than we are used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: Dylan Powell is going off on IU admin today. I can appreciate a player standing up for his coach but the young man needs to sit this one out. IU Football and our Administration has invested plenty in facilities/upgrades/stadium improvements.....when I hear generic phrases like they need to invest in our program my question is what specifically are you talking about kid?? If there are specific things we need to do besides NIL let us know. Otherwise I feel like IU across the board has invested plenty....unless he's saying we need more $ for better assistants. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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