IUFLA Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 28 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: It’s been true the past two games, but it hadn’t been true all season. Gunn and Banks were getting playing time while Leal was buried on the bench. I don’t think Anthony just started practicing hard. Not sure that Gunn and Banks were getting that clear message. Apparently not, and now they're paying the price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I hope CJ and Kaleb are taking notice... The way into the court under Mike Woodson is through practicing hard and carrying it over to games... You and I both have posted on here time and time again about Leal's potential to help this team. Many posters on here didn't give Leal the time of day and often spoke of him sort of as a novelty. I hope we see a lot more of Leal in some capacity from here on out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Apparently not, and now they're paying the price... That seems to be an assumption that Banks and CJ don't practice hard I have heard just the opposite, that both players put in work and effort. It may just be that Leal got his chance and had a great game That doesn't necessarily mean Banks and Gunn are slacking. They may just not be very good yet 🤷♂️ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: That seems to be an assumption that Banks and CJ don't practice hard I have heard just the opposite, that both players put in work and effort. It may just be that Leal got his chance and had a great game That doesn't necessarily mean Banks and Gunn are slacking. They may just not be very good yet 🤷♂️ I've never said they don't practice hard, but their performance doesn't carry over to the games, at least not consistently... They've had numerous chances to produce, and haven't at the level Coach Woodson expects... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 59 minutes ago, btownqb said: It was nice to see A Leal hit shots for us. Huge. Worried about Malik not making it back to the bench... I assume XJs lower wrist/ arm is broke. He came back out. There’s a tweet someone posted on page 3 of him sitting around where Tim Garl usually sits clapping when a basket is made. I don’t know if he stayed there all game or what but he was there at least for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 FUN GAME. - A lot of reviews, but beyond that the officials actually let a good flow to develop. It was actually……entertaining. - I was one of the doubters, but beyond happy to see Leal get his moment. - Ware put this team on his shoulders - that kid wanted to WIN tonight. - So hard to watch XJ writhing in pain. - Hope Malik comes back soon, if not, let’s look at the silver lining and hope it inspires smaller lineups more often. - Can this team learn to close out the first half in the near future???? The turnovers, bad shots, mental mistakes and bad fouls. It seems like it was the 10th time in a row that happened. On to the next. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: That seems to be an assumption that Banks and CJ don't practice hard I have heard just the opposite, that both players put in work and effort. It may just be that Leal got his chance and had a great game That doesn't necessarily mean Banks and Gunn are slacking. They may just not be very good yet 🤷♂️ I think that’s likely accurate. I’m sure Woodson likes their length and athleticism. If they weren’t working hard, it’s odd that they were playing while Leal was buried on the bench all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: I've never said they don't practice hard, but their performance doesn't carry over to the games, at least not consistently... They've had numerous chances to produce, and haven't at the level Coach Woodson expects... Well, that's fair. I think the part I may disagree with (or at least say there is no way to know) is saying that they didn't get the message Sometimes not playing well is because it jist hasn't clicked yet, not because you aren't getting the message. I see your point. But by that theory, Anthony Leal didn't get the message for 4 years. 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, IUskim said: He came back out. There’s a tweet someone posted on page 3 of him sitting around where Tim Garl usually sits clapping when a basket is made. I don’t know if he stayed there all game or what but he was there at least for a bit. It was reported in Indy Star that Malik was on crutches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I think that’s likely accurate. I’m sure Woodson likes their length and athleticism. If they weren’t working hard, it’s odd that they were playing while Leal was buried on the bench all season I don’t think it’s trivial. When they play, their mistakes make them a liability. They put up bad shots and are loose with the ball. I think they’re relatively good one on one defenders, but not good system defenders. Despite Leal’s lack of athleticism, he can pretty much coach that team. He knows where to be. IF he continues hitting shots at a good enough clip to spread the defense, he’ll take a lot of their playing time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Just now, bluegrassIU said: Well, that's fair. I think the part I may disagree with (or at least say there is no way to know) is saying that they didn't get the message Sometimes not playing well is because it jist hasn't clicked yet, not because you aren't getting the message. I see your point. But by that theory, Anthony Leal didn't get the message for 4 years. 😜 I think the part that's not clicking is they use games to try to elevate their games instead of just doing their job... I've said this before, both should concentrate on defense and rebounding, and let the other parts of his game come to them... They both have more physical ability than Anthony Leal does... But with Leal's experience he understands what he's out there for... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I think the part that's not clicking is they use games to try to elevate their games instead of just doing their job... I've said this before, both should concentrate on defense and rebounding, and let the other parts of his game come to them... They both have more physical ability than Anthony Leal does... But with Leal's experience he understands what he's out there for... Agree. CJ only got 5 minutes last night but he aggressively pulled down two rebounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 11 hours ago, HoosierDom said: I didn't see what happened to Malik, did it look bad? I can't imagine X comes back this year. I've hurt my knee and ankle before where it hurt real bad right away but then got better quickly and I was fine. Never had that happen to my arm. I have if it was a dislocated elbow like it looked. I was in a sling for 2 weeks then started 2 a days for football just couldnt lift or anything for another 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: it’s odd that they were playing while Leal was buried on the bench all season Honestly, I've been struggling with this question all year watching guys like Gunn, Banks, and even Cupps struggle. Why not give Leal a chance? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Honestly, I've been struggling with this question all year watching guys like Gunn, Banks, and even Cupps struggle. Why not give Leal a chance? Agree You know what you get with Leal. He will play hard and be in good position on D. Might get beat off the dribble but he will compete. He is capable of making the open shot moves the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Let's be real here people. The first time Leal goes 0 for 4 and gets beat off the dribble by a super quick guard we will all be ranting at Woody for thinking he should play a "mid major talent" at IU. It's what we do. 🤣 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Let's be real here people. The first time Leal goes 0 for 4 and gets beat off the dribble by a super quick guard we will all be ranting at Woody for thinking he should play a "mid major talent" at IU. It's what we do. 🤣 True, he got burned a few times in the second half on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 14 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Let's be real here people. The first time Leal goes 0 for 4 and gets beat off the dribble by a super quick guard we will all be ranting at Woody for thinking he should play a "mid major talent" at IU. It's what we do. 🤣 I think Anthony's experience will keep last night from going to his head... Now watch him go out and go all Rick Mount on us against Penn St to make me a liar 🙂 Edited January 31 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 19 minutes ago, 94hoosier said: Agree You know what you get with Leal. He will play hard and be in good position on D. Might get beat off the dribble but he will compete. He is capable of making the open shot moves the ball. Agree. But, don’t TG and X get beat off the dribble too? I see TG running alongside his guy all the time. Seems he often can’t hold a position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I think Anthony's experience will keep last night from going to his head... Now watch him go out and go all Rick Mount on us against Penn St to make me a liar 🙂 i am happy for AL, not sure he is this type of player every night, but who the hells knows. maybe he is the missing link and just needs to get more time on the floor with that line up. Great win for the team, thought they were going to choke it up but played great D down the stretch to keep iowa from scoring back to back buckets when they took the lead. Injuries are going to kill us down the stretch. Even Ware was playing through his hurt leg, lost Malik for a few and who knows on X. TG HAS TO BE BETTER!! He has to find some consistency. He has to play better. Value the ball more and play under control. As a Sr starter, he just has to be better for the team. I think he is more important than XJ for the success of this team. On to the next! Go Hoosiers 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Good to see Woody figured out that 3>2. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said: Good to see Woody figured out that 3>2. 😁 Too soon, man. Too soon. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, John S said: Agree. But, don’t TG and X get beat off the dribble too? I see TG running alongside his guy all the time. Seems he often can’t hold a position. Perkins made some tough ones though... Kid is a gamer... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 41 minutes ago, 3Ballin said: I have if it was a dislocated elbow like it looked. I was in a sling for 2 weeks then started 2 a days for football just couldnt lift or anything for another 2 weeks. How long until you could shoot a basketball, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, HoosierDom said: How long until you could shoot a basketball, though? Ypu are assuming X ever could shoot. jk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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