IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Too bad they didn’t find their guys in rounds 1-2 How do you know they didn't. Just because you don't like the picks doesn't mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How do you know they didn't. Just because you don't like the picks doesn't mean anything Both picks have been branded as potentially good but “risky “ by most draft analysts. I don’t think the Colts are in position to be risky right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Both picks have been branded as potentially good but “risky “ by most draft analysts. I don’t think the Colts are in position to be risky right now. So who would you have picked at #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So who would you have picked at #4 I’ve already said that I would have taken Hooker if it was imperative to take a quarterback at 4. Otherwise I would have taken any of the next three picks, all in positions of need and then taken him with the 2nd pick. Colts are depending on the new head coach turning Richardson into the next Jalen Hurts.For their sake, hope they are right. Hurts started 56 games in college v high level competition. Richardson started 13. That’s a huge difference in experience to draw on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I’ve already said that I would have taken Hooker if it was imperative to take a quarterback at 4. Otherwise I would have taken any of the next three picks, all in positions of need and then taken him with the 2nd pick. Colts are depending on the new head coach turning Richardson into the next Jalen Hurts.For their sake, hope they are right. Hurts started 56 games in college v high level competition. Richardson started 13. That’s a huge difference in experience to draw on Obviously taking Hooker at 4 would have been ridiculous since he was just picked in the middle of the third round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Got a WR I'm third round Josh Downs UNC Only 5'8 but very productive and will play in the slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Obviously taking Hooker at 4 would have been ridiculous since he was just picked in the middle of the third round. There were more than a few analysts who had Hooker ranked as the 3rd best quarterback in this draft. He was not drafted sooner because of his injury. The same argument being used for Richardson, he can sit while Minshew plays, could be used for Hooker. I believe Hooker has better ability to play the quarterback position from a processing information standpoint, from a feel for the game standpoint, from a maturity standpoint, than Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I had no problem with the Colts' selection of Richardson. Since then...meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, rico said: I had no problem with the Colts' selection of Richardson. Since then...meh. I guess we will find out in a couple of years ago to see how good the picks were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, rico said: I had no problem with the Colts' selection of Richardson. Since then...meh. I don’t like the Richardson pick, and the trading down for who they have taken leaves a lot to be desired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I guess we will find out in a couple of years ago to see how good the picks were Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I don’t like the Richardson pick, and the trading down for who they have taken leaves a lot to be desired Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, rico said: Yep. Don't watch as much college football so I can't tell you how good a lot of these players are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 9:06 AM, KoB2011 said: So Arizona is a terrible organization. The Jets changed GMs between Darnold and Wilson (which was my point). Vikings got a new GM shortly after Ponder, before drafting Teddy. If you draft the wrong QB, you aren't going to survive as a GM. Which I said yeah for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I don’t like the Richardson pick, and the trading down for who they have taken leaves a lot to be desired If you want to know who Ballard will take just look for the guy with the best RAS rating on the board…he loves his athletes. Both we’ve gotten in rd 2 and 3 are highly rated as was Richardson. He has always been a sucker for freak athletes…and for the most part that has served him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, dgambill said: If you want to know who Ballard will take just look for the guy with the best RAS rating on the board…he loves his athletes. Both we’ve gotten in rd 2 and 3 are highly rated as was Richardson. He has always been a sucker for freak athletes…and for the most part that has served him well. Yeah. Translated into how many playoff wins?🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: There were more than a few analysts who had Hooker ranked as the 3rd best quarterback in this draft. He was not drafted sooner because of his injury. The same argument being used for Richardson, he can sit while Minshew plays, could be used for Hooker. I believe Hooker has better ability to play the quarterback position from a processing information standpoint, from a feel for the game standpoint, from a maturity standpoint, than Richardson. You said a few posts earlier that the Colts weren't in a position to be risky. Wouldn't drafting an injured quarterback be considered risky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: There were more than a few analysts who had Hooker ranked as the 3rd best quarterback in this draft. He was not drafted sooner because of his injury. The same argument being used for Richardson, he can sit while Minshew plays, could be used for Hooker. I believe Hooker has better ability to play the quarterback position from a processing information standpoint, from a feel for the game standpoint, from a maturity standpoint, than Richardson. Well he's 5 years older, I'd hope. If Richardson is only as good as Hooker when he's 26, he's a bust. Edited April 29, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Can someone explain what was wrong with the 2nd two picks? I only wanted one of Brents/Porter. Wanted Hyatt but wasn't convinced he was a true slot, which Downs is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 hours ago, TheWatShot said: You said a few posts earlier that the Colts weren't in a position to be risky. Wouldn't drafting an injured quarterback be considered risky? An ACL is not career ending like it used to be. His surgeon came out and said that Hooker will be good to go eventually. From a playing standpoint, there are very few unknowns about Hooker. Conversely, Richardson is all about potential, and most of it is unknown. Too many unknowns, imo, for the 4th pick in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: An ACL is not career ending like it used to be. His surgeon came out and said that Hooker will be good to go eventually. From a playing standpoint, there are very few unknowns about Hooker. Conversely, Richardson is all about potential, and most of it is unknown. Too many unknowns, imo, for the 4th pick in the draft Hooker, at 26, an ACL injury, and a very limited ceiling is not what you spend a Top 5 pick on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: Hooker, at 26, an ACL injury, and a very limited ceiling is not what you spend a Top 5 pick on. How would you feel about grabbing him in like the 6th round? You would have 2 guys similar skill set that would be an insurance policy and big brother to the younger for the next 5 years. Wouldn't have to revamp your offense on the fly if Richardson went down for a month or 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 8:48 AM, NotIThatLives said: Day of with zero football sense, I'm leaning Richardson. Highest ceiling guy? Patting myself on the back with my prediction skills. I won't go so far as to say this will be a boom but the potential is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: How would you feel about grabbing him in like the 6th round? You would have 2 guys similar skill set that would be an insurance policy and big brother to the younger for the next 5 years. Wouldn't have to revamp your offense on the fly if Richardson went down for a month or 12. I wouldn't see the point because I think a QB room of AR, GM, and SE is solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, btownqb said: Hooker, at 26, an ACL injury, and a very limited ceiling is not what you spend a Top 5 pick on. As I said, plenty of analysts had him as the 3rd best quarterback in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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