Fiveoutofsix

51 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said:

Probably down to 3rd an 4th string QBs! We have the weakest offensive line in the league don’t see us scoring much the rest of the year! 

Get creative.  Against Wisconsin last year, they revamped the O for one game.  Go back to the pistol, etc.  Name of the game is to also score.  It would also help if special teams can provide more field protection.  

2 minutes ago, Leathernecks said:

It will take at least a couple years to overcome this train wreck. It isn't like we have a scheme issue that could be fixed in a year. Our OL struggles with everything. Fundamentals will have to be completely retaught by a new coach (no way Hiller survives this disaster). More talent will have to be recruited.

We have to make the OL our biggest emphasis moving forward. If we had a Kevin Wilson line, we would be a really good team this year. Our OL play has limited our running game, put a ton of pressure on QBs, and caused almost all routes to be quick and not allow our WR to get separation.

What does the OL room look like with underclassman?  QB's and RB's have no chance.  Can't blame WR's for not creating separation, there literally is no time, rhythm, etc.  Not just this game, every game this season.  

It was like yesterday when Coach Hoeppner said this:

"We have the seven blocks of limestone," said Hoeppner. "The seven offensive linemen that we signed today, the future of IU football – we're building on those blocks of limestone – 6-6, 285 and athletic."

This is where the focus needs to be, it has to.  Instead of discussing in segments in game threads, thought a devoted thread would be a good discussion.

11 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said:

Let's face it, last season was a fluke and we still got embarrassed in a second-rate bowl game.

That said, no reason to make changes at the top - we'll just get another coordinator/assistant coach level replacement.

There still is a season at head.  Let's not forget we lost leaders on offense in Whop and Scott.  The Line hasn't been good since we had a few pros on it, and Scott was awesome as a blocker.  

I always go back to the conservative play calling.  Even MSU threw some trickery in there and it worked.  You want to play top 10 football, open the playbook.  Create change.

6 minutes ago, BeerBQ said:

I knew there would be an event announced but wasn’t sure what. I’m a bit confused after hearing more. 
 

I went to Hoosier Hysteria already. How is this different?

Eric was critical of some of the production. Am I wrong to think this is competing with an annual event?

Will it overlap with the football game?

 

I generally like the Hoosier Hysterics but I’m just not sure on this one. 

Going to be interesting to find out.  I'm sure they went through the university and coaching staff for approval.  They have to for NIL and the players wouldn't do anything without coaches approval.  

This is for the players, would be interesting to see how PR takes it to another level.  They want recruits to see NIL at IU.  And, wonder if recruits can attend who couldn't the other event.

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

They were not complaining about the event but the person who is putting the event on.  Some think that Eric is not a good person for the University to have help with the NIL.

Its silly, my opinion.  It's obvious the players have a positive relationship with him.  So do the coaches.  So do thousands of fans.  So do alumni.  

Because they joke around, or interview recruits.  No difference reaching out to high school coaches to get a scoop.  Or, talking to a recruit at a restaurant.  Or posting info on a board.  All is fun and different perspectives 

1 hour ago, Seeking6 said:

Sounds like a NIL event is scheduled for November 6th with our friends at HH in partnership with Cuban. Meet and greet players, photos, get on the court,etc...tickets on sale Friday.

Looks like a great event, hoosier hysteria the remake.  Effort and passion!  Some are going to spin it for whatever reason.  There is someone on another board already doing it.  Let's face it, these fans + Cuban are different makers and they have access unlike anyone else.  And, they are doing it for not only hobby, but more importantly for the players and fans.  

55 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Just a package. It's been done before with FR Qs. Justin Fields, many others had one. 

It's another element for the D to account for. Make it simple for him. 

Would love to see him on the field.  To me, he could be a gamechanger.  

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I think that's going to be easier with Tuttle. We might have to have a package for McCulley too. 

McCulley is a wild card.  Very talented, and the future.  Always concerned with a frosh qb and a line that has trouble with protection.  

Fun HH.  Miss the midnight madness, still think that is a more memorable experience.  Wish they will tap into Cuban center more.  And, use to like the team skits.

My favorite of all time was when Sampson had a recording artist (ex IU football player) ramp up the crowd with music and he had drills including take charge drills.

Appreciate Woodson bringing back the drills, as that is fun to see.

Wish, they will put on more of a show with the resources they have.  And, hype it up more.  The place should of been sold-out!

1 hour ago, Muddy River said:

I'm no football coach, but if your offensive line is struggling like ours, why is the only 4th and 1 play in the playbook a run up the middle?

Good question!  Watching some games this weekend, it amazes me that tradition top 10 programs have more tricks in their bags than IU does.  Heard an argument from someone once that you have to play as if you are top tier- a reason not to pull tricks out of the bag.  Then, I see the Alabama's of the world pulling out plays that is to trickery for IU.  

We have an offense that is struggling and the name of the game is to win.  Open the playbook, get the ball into playmakers hands where they can do some work.  

Twitter just said I. THOMAS will be at HH to address crowd.  Awesome!

3 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

I still have PM’s with Mile about it. I knew a player (he went to my high school) who was on the team with someone we were recruiting. You can PM me for the name if you want. But he went on to play for a team in the Big East, and recently transferred. Easy to figure out but I don’t want to state the recruits name directly. 

No need, and I beleive it can happen.  Sports is an entertainment buisness and I enjoy their access and how they make those they interview real people.  Also, the access behind closed doors.  

I could do without the references made to "other activites" with them being an extension to the programs.  But, from this fan that is my only criticism.  

Everyone has a choice to like or dislime an act.  I was just trying to show a different perspective and view.

1 hour ago, RoadToZion said:

I know one recruit who was very turned off by them, fwiw. Their gimmicks won’t last long. 

Couldn't that be true about anyone who puts themselves out there?  It would be interesting to see if this recruit ends up at IU and gets an NIL opportunity from HH....would the recruit turn that down?  

Not everyone gets a sitdown invite to Coach Knights home.  Not everyone gets access to practices, and coach offices.  

I would be interested to hear how the conversation came up about thr recruit being turned off.  That is not an organic conversation, unless the person asking is doing a similar thing as the HH do and reach out and talk to recruits.  

43 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Why do those Hoosier Hysterics creeps have access to our basketball team and recruits? Did you guys see that video of them and Fears? 100% cringeworthy. They are the weirdest of weird. Get them out of here. 

They probably have access because the team and coaches connect with them.  The humor part is part of their routine as they are entertainers who have separated themselves from every other website, poster, podcast.  Like them or not, they have access to the IU basketball complete family.  And haves acess to the team and coaches.  

Personally, I find them funny and enjoy them.  In show buisness you have to create an identity to get a following.  They did that AND have the coaches on board.  Furthermore, the players seem to like them.  👍 

8 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

I won't even try to keep up with replies. Probably all saying the same. A booth initiated review that wasn't called on the field changed the entire game. 75% of Cincy yards came after MM ejection. Total crap. Have to find a way gang. 

Why couldn't IU ask for the review to be reviewed to look for the hand pulling IUs hemet and the push into qb?

Why wasnt the last hit reviewed on Penix?

Just now, tdhoosier said:

He JUST CAN’T DO THAT!

Yes. But did you see cin helmet to head of Penix?  Wonder why that wasn't reviewed?

How do things work?  Iowa State looses at home to Iowa and they move down to 14.  Indiana looses on the road to Iowa and they can't sniff the rankings.  Is there something I am missing?  Is it my Hoosier glasses?

51 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said:

It is how you respond to those losses that define your season. 👍

Agree, take back the season!  Without doubt, this was the most anticipated opener for me spanning 30 years.  From the misspelled jersey to unranked is a hit.  Coach has always coached up the underdog, and they will learn from this.  Get better each day...the talent is there from players to coaches.  Fans are hungry...take back the season.  Long season, reset and shock the country!

6 hours ago, KoB2011 said:

I'd add Parker had about 18 months off of real games. If a bad shooting night is 31% from three instead of 13% I think we will be okay. 

Great point!  Watching some of the clips over twitter - shot looks terrific and him and the entire team were shooting over length that I don't know if they will see much in the NCAA.

23 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

without seeing anything other than tweets and stats... it is encouraging to have 3 new starters from the new guys.  it is very encouraging to see Bates early on.  i think Kopp is just what we need in that role.  Stewart may be a little concerning?  are Rob or Lander really gonna be much better this year?  love the FTs and lack of TOs.  3 point shooting still looking ugly.  very excited to get to the season!  

3 point shooting will improve, if not already.  Second game Miller was ouy early. Parker has years of evidence his shooting will go up.  Few factors with shooting:  Lifting program is designed to be at max right now since season starts in two months.  The ballroom was a unique place to shoot a basketball.  Low ceiling, surrounding, etc.  Team will improve, if not already.

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

 

Don't want get over hyped- Parker is only going to shoot better, he always has.  Others will as well!  Durr has not seen the court.  Full offense not instituted yet.....wow, going to be exciting.  

32 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Yep, all about the money...

Makes you really wonder though if the powers that be at Ohio State, Michigan, USC et al would wash away over a century of tradition and brand building for a buck if the SEC offered...

Sadly, I'm almost positive they would...

I don't think they will jump - those three combine academics and athletics as their identity.  Personally, I think there is an over reaction to this SEC thing - they took two teams from a struggling conference.  Yes, two money makers with football with an idenity, but two from a struggling conference.

B1G holds the power and the SEC is actually trying to respond to them.  Football is on the rise again in the B1G even with the likes of IU and Rutgers.  

My question is does an alliance hold the B1G back?  The research dollars and athletic dollars and shares resources only grows with growth.  Get USC, Colorado, Kansas - be America's conference spanning from east to west through the midwest.  

Have to think something is in play and B1G tight lipped.  

Personally, would love to see UCLA as the world knows that brand.  

14 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

It is coming, might as well get schools that make IU money.  And if we add 6 and make it a BIG10 East/West type of scenario, then you would hardly ever play those western teams.

Edit:  Also, from an IU perspective, we want the B10 to remain strong.  Look where Kansas is falling on those lists, see how often Duke gets brought up as a desirable add, we would not fair well in a huge realignment that blew up the Big 10.

What hurts me as a fan, tradition and loyalty does not seem to matter anymore.  Rumors of SEC reaching out to OSU is crazy when they are a BIGTen school and basically control the conference.

But, I would love for BigTen to look at this from a Football and Basketball standpoint and be clear that they are.  Heck, why not try and rebrand some emeging sports like lacrosse, soccer and make that something special on their network.  

22 minutes ago, rico said:

Notre Dame and Clemson would trump Texas and Oklahoma.

And when did A&M and Mizzou become prestigious SEC schools?

Don't see Clemson leaving ACC, but you are right - I would put UCLA, USC, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Clemson, maybe Oregon all as bigger fishes.  The draw of mizzou and and a pitt is to lock down midwest and create or better brand rivalries.