Fiveoutofsix

8 hours ago, KoB2011 said:

I don't think anyone is saying the team would have been as good under Archie and I also believe we are all well aware we play a different system. I've personally pointed out several times we are playing an NBA style defense and it is clearly superior.

Having said that, there are some defensive fundamentals that aren't about the system we are playing that this team clearly benefits from already have had instilled. Our defense disappointed last year under Archie, along with everything else, but to ignore that we largely had a good defense during his tenure is to ignore reality. We struggled with playing hard all the time, and we were susceptible to the three ball because it is a weakness of the scheme, but make no mistake our players had a lot of good principles instilled in them by Archie.

For sure, like I said before, Archie didn't just roll a ball out in practice and leave.  Nor did Crean on Defense.  In-fact Crean was a very fundamental defensive coach- his philosophy was to have more possesions and be as fast on O as possible, which played into defensive.  Some of our best defenders in modern days were under Crean.  Nor, did AAU coaches, trainers, high school coaches, little league, parents/guardians- all teach and teach well.   

There is a defensive change in schematics, philosophy, angles, etc.  

Archie aslo worked on offensive.

Credit goes to Woodson and staff.  They have these kids playing with a whole new idenity, together.   Throw in 3 out 5 starters are new and they are playing together says something.

44 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

Yeah I think Archie deserves some credit for putting in a good foundation defensively. There’s a reason Woody has talked repeatedly about us being ahead defensively of where we are offensively, and that’s largely due to the teaching of the previous staff. 
 

This staff has quite clearly taken it to a new level and they deserve major credit, too. 

Interesting thought.  I will say, there are three new players on the starting unit and Bates leading the way in the second.  Trayce and Race are being asked to defend differently, such as leaving their assignment to block.  

Trayce even said in an interview they had to break habits, and it was difficult with closeouts, etc.

They are ahead on Defense because Woodson made it a priority.  They still have a ways to go.

I have listened to just about every interview since the hire.  

Archie didn't just roll a ball out and leave on Offense and Defense.  If anything, I think the Defense would be more difficult to transition because of the style, switching, in your face pick up your assignment.   They are no longer sitting back.

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

Don't like the turnovers and the offensive rebounds but very happy with how they played tonight.  I thought this was going to be a lot tougher game than it was.  Louisiana was supposed to be pretty good and is a big physical team.

I think a  lot of the sloppy play especially the last ten minutes is just human nature.  I think it is lime when you have been playing pickup ball for a couple of hours.  That last game you are tired and just stop playing and you have a lot of snow birding.  I just think when it comes that easy and the game is out of hand you just lose the intensity.

Coach Woodson in the post game comments sounded like he was unhappy with the turnovers.

Offensive rebounds are important; however you have to balance 5 crashing the boards and also getting back on transition defense.  You can't always have both.  

Also, they are using the bump and jump technique which NBA and teams like MSU use.  This will take some time to master.  They wil improve.

Btn transitioned quicker to a replay football game then to our live IU game.  

This team is only going to get better and offense is only going to become more natural.  Good times!!!

So much for overflow channels.  

1 hour ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said:

IU is dumb is they let Allen walk.  Allen needs to bring in a better staff.

Coach need to make adjustments and bring in an offensive staff.

With that being said, for the rumor mentioned in this thread - can you imagine a team down south hiring a coach who hasn't beat a power5 team this year?  

Hopefully there is a plan for the offense and especially the line. 

19 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said:

Is. D McCulley our future? From what I’ve seen he can’t throw the ball! This isn’t HighSchool anymore! Is there anyone one on the offense side coming back that gives us the feeling we will be better! 
That we won’t  be watching this same shit show next year! 

Every throw is on the run and scramble.  

Just now, OLDIUFAN said:

I am sorry doesn’t Coach Allen participate in practice! I don’t think he’ll fix it even next year! I don’t think he knows we’re to turn! 

Allen has said it in the past, he needs and wants a head coach on offense.  He hired one, lost him to a head coaching gig, and my assumption is that he didn't want to go through that again.  

9 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said:

Well it shows that the coaches we lost the last two years were the glue to this team! 
they are a pathetic team to watch! Gasping at straws hoping something works! 

They lost identity on D, tried to play like Alabama and Georgia - the line and depth not setup for that.

Offense, it hurts that two talented RB transferred out, when we needed them.  Oline has not been recruited and developed, and little speed at WR once Whop left and DJ got hurt.  

We need a creative play caller.  Got to put points on the board, somehow.

21 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

Got to think this ship has sailed now right?

I could see coach playing multiple pgs at once.  He has a three guard lineup going on right now.  

1 hour ago, OLDIUFAN said:

I think we need to fire The OC before we get on the plane after the Purdue game! Hire a new one then work withe him on replacing the entire offensive coaches except running back coach. He deserves a couple years. 

Since Coach Allen took over, IU has struggled in the Special Teams and Offense.  There of course was that one good year where the O looked good.  Last year, everyone saw the challenges, especially with the line; however, Penix was amazing before injury. 

IU defense lost it's identity.  They need to go back to causing confusion and swarm D.  Too much one on one.  We don't have the depth, speed, personal.

Offense throw the $$$ at Justin Frye.  Could solve two areas with one hire.  

Just now, rogue3542 said:

Why aren't we playing mcculley?

If we have to hear we are going to play who can with us game one more time.....change the staff not the qb.  Who is assessing this and making decisions?

27 minutes ago, Bad Brad said:

Trev Alberts, in his first year as AD at Nebraska is to be commended.  He confronted Frost with a choice, take less money on a one year extension, get better offensively or leave.  As a result 4 top offensive coaches were let go.  The Frost-Alberts/Allen-Dolson timelines and situations are eerily similar. Waiting until after the Purdue game won't help.

Allen has been down the road with something like this before when he made the change a few years ago.  

My assumption is that Allen went with Sheridan because he values stability when Coach D became a head coach.  

13 hours ago, BeerBQ said:

They also mentioned that the company they worked with some other schools. They did free events and had the same or lower attendance than what IU did. 

They said the same people told them about 50 kids was normal for a camp, so 120 is a great turnout. 

Overall, they were very happy and considered it a success. More importantly, they said the players agreed. Each got a check that night and will get an additional one later. 

Finished the entire podcast a few seconds ago.  Raised over 100k to destribute and some of the additonal deals were from some food sources.  Pro camp told them they had more fans then the likes of kansas and kentucky, and those two gave away free tickets.  Have to listen to get full details.  

From podcast:  Around 3,300 at Fanfest, 120 or so at the procamp.  Idea was to hold it in the new Volleyball arena, would of packed it.  Wanted the experience to be at AH, which makes sense.  Not bad, not bad.  First year, only going to grow and get better.  3000+ is still a ton of fans. 

5 hours ago, NotIThatLives said:

I thought the football team had literal NFL former s&c coaches on it???

They have the best in the buisness, by many experts opinions.  Injuries happened with the staff that is now at Alabama.  People have to blame someone right?  IU does not have depth, that is where the problem is.  Our highly rated classes still are in development and some are leaving because they need to wait.  

7 minutes ago, Indy1987 said:

I'm all for having an event like fanfest but if pics are true the turnout was terrible.  Like Coach SS was right with that tweet.  That's super embarrassing for whoever put this on and for the school and the fan base.

Should have been a minimum amount of advanced tickets sold to have such an event.  

Go Hoosiers!!!

Maybe, maybe not.  If, lets say there were 2,000 fans there and at $10+ a ticket, that can get each player maybe 1k for a few hours of work.  This, after also donating to charity.  Not bad

Should there be more fans?  Without doubt that would of been nice.  Players were hyping it on social media.  

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

IMO a lot of the hate the Hoosier Hysterics guys get from people is largely based in jealousy. 

Without any doubt.  They are some of the few who have evidence and proof to connections to the program and fanbase.  All someone has to do is listen to the Fife, Hunter, etc. Interviews.  

What is more interesting to me is that other platforms who pickup any IU sports news story has not pushed this event, when its for the kids.  Those other platforms have no problem posting everything else.  I get that peegs.com is behind this; however, this is a big event to the basketball programs, and those other platforms make a profit from the IU brand and the names of the players without ever having to give them a dime.

3 minutes ago, HoosierJax said:

Ouch!

Hope there is a nice turnout.  When I was at IU, professors use to cancel class if it conflicted with game day. We use to wakeup to support all charity events that supported thr Library from IU basketball.  Dun Meadow was packed for Kinghts exit speech. 

After down seasons, many, and IU football having the season they are after all the hype - IU athletics needs to work on hype. Outreach, etc.  Not sure if it will ever go back to the late 90's; however you got to try.  

5 minutes ago, DWB said:

Ditto on the grouchiness for me.

But honestly, I think the coaching staff would just as soon NOT have Fanfest at all this year, especially this close to the opener. I'm sure they want to maximize the NIL stuff for the players, but if I were in Woody's seat, I'd just not want it at this time.

Also...don't see the need for the cloak & dagger stuff either, since as of Tuesday there will be film available for all opponents to view anyway. I can't believe that Woody actually thinks Eastern Mich will beat us. They are the only ones precluded from seeing any film. Only thing I can think of is that Woody doesn't want a repeat of the ISU debacle for the opener.

He made the decision and approved the event.  You don't just change practice and allow anyone to use assembly hall.  They want this event!  

8 hours ago, dbmhoosier said:

 

Oops, just mentioned in NIL thread about this not knowing it was posted already.  HoosierHystrcs, got to love the effort and their inside thhe program and beyond network.  

Surprised not mentioned:  Coach Knight to the event happening soon.  

15 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

We are worse now than 3 years ago. 30 years from now I can say at least we had 2020. 

Last year we were riding takeaways, good field position and a healthy confidence Penix.  Stevie Scott as a premier blocker and Whop as someone that can spread the field and demand attention.  

10 hours ago, jv1972iu said:

This 100%!  Just being big doesn't cut it.  You have to be able to move...with strength and authority.

One of Coach H's 7 blocks of limestone was Rodger Saffold. Recruiting is the name of the game.  Have to get the right personality in their to recruit this position and make it a priority.  Isn't there an IU alum that went from coaching BC to UCLA that might of been interested in returning before going to UCLA? 

Coach Allen needs to hire the head coach of the offence - he was able to do that for a year - there has to be another solution.