IUJoe

13 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

There is a technical component to my job, although I have technical resources I rely on quite a bit. The CIO of a $30B company wants to hear technical validation from an engineer, not from me.

Basketball isn’t astrophysics or even enterprise software for that matter. So while I agree Mike Woodson knows more than I do about basketball, I don’t think that disqualifies me (or many others from questioning him).

And even if it did, I don’t have to question him based on what I think, I can question him based on what other leaders in his field do. “Hey you’re doing stuff a lot different than Tommy Lloyd and it isn’t working out great so far, tell me about that?” is a completely valid question, yeah?

I do get questioned on why I do what I do in my job and my performance. Most people do, right? I use hard (analytics) and soft examples to self assess and to justify my performance to people. Sure I don’t have the press to deal with, but even going beyond that it isn’t like Scott Dolson is anymore qualified to question Mike Woodson on X and Os than @BGleasis.

My ability to have a conversation about physics with Albert Einstein is significantly more lacking than my ability to have a conversation with Mike Woodson about basketball. There are tons of people on this board that have a very good understanding and knowledge of the game. 

I work in a field (taxes) that people bitch about more than this board bitches about Mike Woodson, three point shooting, recruiting, and the brand of our uniforms combined.  A lot of people think they know a lot about taxes.  They don’t.  And there are many, many subjects one could unfortunately say that about, most of which are much less complex than physics.

29 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Yes

Hey, as long as we’re bitching….

18 minutes ago, Indykev said:

one leads to the other

So, you don’t want us shooting more threes with our current team?

1 minute ago, Indykev said:

You are finally hitting on it... Who's fault is it we dont have the players to play that game????

So are we bitching about 3 point shooting or recruiting?

6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

lol other than the blatant falsehood to start the post, sure, he confused me with facts. The Mike Woodson Knicks were absolutely not at the forefront of this era of basketball.

 

You skipped my question regarding who on our current team you want shooting more threes.

1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

I wouldn’t put that team in this era of basketball. Carmelo was their 3, which is about all the proof one should need to understand how they played vs how good teams today play  

While I do think the answer is yes, I don’t think that’s the example I’d use. 

lol.  That team was at the forefront of this era of basketball.  They shot and made more threes than anybody in the league.  

Specifically who on our current team do you want shooting more threes?  Galloway?  He can’t make a free throw right now.  Johnson or Newton?  Oh yeah, they’re not playing.  Gunn?  Is he above 5% in his college career?  Mgbako?  Sure, maybe, but he’s still not consistent.

1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

Does that team play anything like we currently do?

Do you think if Mike Woodson coached that team, he understands modern basketball?

39 minutes ago, Indykev said:

My follow up would have been, Coach do you watch any modern basketball at all or just old highlight film from your playing days. I watched my first NBA game the other night in 4 years and hell they couldn't get enough 3's shot in one trip.

Have you guys ever watched any games Woodson coached for the Knicks?  Ever looked at their stats?

23 minutes ago, rico said:

I wonder why?

It’s never made any sense to me why a coach would take a job where the previous coach was fired for poor performance and want to keep a bunch of those players.  Seems like a great opportunity to turn the roster over faster and improve.

22 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said:

IU Scott and IU Joe are okay with settling and being mediocre.

Typical BS statement from someone who thinks pissing all over message boards means you have high standards.  I was an IU student the last time we won a National Championship.  No one wants another one more than I do.  I'm not about to help our fan base look like a bunch of damn fools on message boards, thinking that's going to help me get one.  Some of you are a lot bigger embarrassment than any basketball game will ever be.

8 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

So who will be the next coach is. Should start tracking planes to see where they are looking. Maybe we can get Bill Self to leave KU LOL!

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5 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said:

Genuine thoughts on Woodson as a coach? Year 3 and another pathetic, embarrassing, and damning loss for the program.. this is why we’re irrelevant. Woodson can recruit but cannot coach college.

My genuine thoughts:

1. Posts like this are ridiculous.

2. There is little difference between coaching in college and coaching in the NBA.

3. "Woodson can recruit" is an interesting statement.  Yes he certainly can, but other than Jalen Hood- Schifino, he really hasn't brought a guard in for 3 recruiting classes that is going to allow us to win at the level we expect.

4 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Talking about the JMU QB, most likely.

Yes.

14 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said:

If you think JMU could compete in the BigTen you’re incredibly naive. In 20 years that program has 2 power 5 wins and one of them is this year’s 3-8 Virginia team by a field goal. This is a completely different landscape than Elon and JMU. 

James Madison would have beat Indiana by 2 touchdowns this season.

1 hour ago, Indykev said:

SC and IU are in the same mess. Unless he gets big NIL money, I don't see any other reason to move to IU.

I don't either.  We probably won't have anybody on our roster this year and have to forfeit all our games.

6 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

Honest Question, last year UNC started #1 and then nosedived. Did the teams playing them as Quad 1 at the beginning of the season still get credit for Quad 1 at the end of season??

No, the quad records use current rankings all season.

28 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

Can anyone zoom in on the papers to see who we are going after?

All I can make out is "Purdue Sucks."

The more I think about it, I think it will be Washington, Michigan, Texas, Alabama.  I think they’ve got a built-in excuse in their rules (QB out) to leave Florida State out.

2 hours ago, Seeking6 said:

Really happy for the whole Penix family. I mean 2-3 years ago Penix was suffering from injuries,etc....and no doubt the dream of being a NFL QB was going down the drain for him and his family.

Now? All but guaranteed a first round choice, should move up in Heisman talk and they are in CFP.

PS....no clue why Oregon was a 10 point favorite.

The answer to your P.S., which is a fair question, is basically metrics.  Oregon won by more, sometimes much more, against common opponents than Washington.  The metrics made the first game between the two teams seem like an upset, or at least that Washington only won because they were at home.  Oregon’s 81-7 win over Portland State doesn’t hurt those metrics, either.  I would guess that if the teams played a third time, Oregon would still be a slight favorite.

18 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

So, given what we saw at the end of the presser…

C3PO’d

Well done!

4 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said:

In no particular order:

No Brainers:  Alex Atkins; Garrett Riley; Sherrone Moore; Tom Herman; Brian Hartline; Seth Littrell

Risky but Frisky: Ryan Grubb, ARE, D Mac, Frye, Hart; Jamey Chadwell; Josh Henson

The list of power 5 coordinators to graduate to success as HC is like 50 to 1 vs guys who coached almost exclusively at the mid major level. 

Seth Littrell was 44-44 as a head coach at North Texas.  He’s a better candidate than Cignetti?  lol

1 minute ago, rico said:

Herman.

Really?  A guy who couldn’t win enough at Texas isn’t even a bit of a gamble?  Would love Herman, but ever hear of Fred Akers?

1 minute ago, cybergates said:

Only knock on him would be that he's taken over winning programs and kept it going (or improved it). 

Impressive record especially considering the move from FCS to FBS.

Elon was not a winning program 

6 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Not sure. I think a B12 team and it's not 

It was illegal to offer him that while he was still playing for us, no?

19 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

If it is the cig, I wouldn’t expect a fast turn around. Don’t know if he is a well enough known character to instantly impact recruiting. You can only do so much with recruits that would be 3rd string on a lot of programs. 
 

but I do like the hire if true.

The Cignetti family is pretty well known in football circles.  That being said, time will tell.  I have a feeling he'll be like Woodson due to his age, he'll want to win now.