Maedhros Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 hours ago, bluegrassIU said: Bah,when you look back it will be irrelevant if they win our lose. The right now moment.....watching, as together as you can, is the real victory and forever memory Enjoy every single second my man! Exactly right. It feels silly at times to invest so much emotion in the outcome of a sports game. But it's in the moment, and the shared experience of watching, that makes sports so wonderful. I don't imagine Phillies fans will ever forget that Bryce Harper home run, and now that they've won and advanced to the World Series they have the opportunity to create even more memories just like that one. I'm pulling for you, BGleas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Correa: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/10/carlos-correa-opts-out-twins-contract-free-agent.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 12:25 PM, rico said: It will be interesting to see what moves the Yankees make in the off season. Listening to DP show this morning he said he heard the Giants won't be outbid on this one...i.e Judge. I think Judge is appointment tv for some...but no way in the world I'd spend the reported $500M that's been floating around. He's only 4 months younger than Trout. Turns 31 next year. I'd rather my team go find 3 starting pitchers, pay them each $30M per year for 5 years and still have $50M left. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Listening to DP show this morning he said he heard the Giants won't be outbid on this one...i.e Judge. I think Judge is appointment tv for some...but no way in the world I'd spend the reported $500M that's been floating around. He's only 4 months younger than Trout. Turns 31 next year. I'd rather my team go find 3 starting pitchers, pay them each $30M per year for 5 years and still have $50M left. I guess the question might be: Where does Judge want to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Listening to DP show this morning he said he heard the Giants won't be outbid on this one...i.e Judge. I think Judge is appointment tv for some...but no way in the world I'd spend the reported $500M that's been floating around. He's only 4 months younger than Trout. Turns 31 next year. I'd rather my team go find 3 starting pitchers, pay them each $30M per year for 5 years and still have $50M left. If I were a GM I am not going to give more than 6 years to a 30+ old player 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, rico said: I guess the question might be: Where does Judge want to play? He's from the Bay so most assume there which means the Dodgers will somehow come up with $4-$500M and get him. No clue honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If I were a GM I am not going to give more than 6 years to a 30+ old player Same...and I'd overpay the yearly average if it was only for 5-6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If I were a GM I am not going to give more than 6 years to a 30+ old player I agree, however sometimes there are exceptions I suppose. Judge may be one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 On MLB they are showing game 5 of the 1980 NLCS Phillies at the Astros. Man the game looked so different especially with the old astro turf. A lot more contact and balls put in ave. Obvious the pitchers aren't throwing as hard. Nolan Ryan throws hard but not over 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, IU Scott said: On MLB they are showing game 5 of the 1980 NLCS Phillies at the Astros. Man the game looked so different especially with the old astro turf. A lot more contact and balls put in ave. Obvious the pitchers aren't throwing as hard. Nolan Ryan throws hard but not over 100 Nolan Ryan was clocked at over 100 mph... Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Nolan Ryan was clocked at over 100 mph... Link I know he could but he never tried to throw that hard on every pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know he could but he never tried to throw that hard on every pitch. He had a damn good curveball too... His best years were wasted with the Angels in the early/mid 70s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: He had a damn good curveball too... His best years were wasted with the Angels in the early/mid 70s... Loved watching him pitch. You won't see anyone strikeout that many batters again. His longevity and the amount of innings pitched won't happen any longer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: A lot more contact and balls put in play. 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You won't see anyone strikeout that many batters again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: You know what I meant because you know if he pitched a lot more innings and years to accumulate those strikeouts. Nobody will pitch 25 years plus over 300 innings a year. It has been shown their are way more strikeouts per game now and a lot less ball put into play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You know what I meant because you know if he pitched a lot more innings and years to accumulate those strikeouts. Nobody will pitch 25 years plus over 300 innings a year. It has been shown their are way more strikeouts per game now and a lot less ball put into play I guess I was off he pitched 27 years 5386 innings 5714 k's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 "Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's throwing balls by you." Reggie Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, IUFLA said: "Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's throwing balls by you." Reggie Jackson It would be interesting to see how Ryan's fastball translated to today's game. Hitters are used to seeing triple digit heat nowadays. With it being more common, does the familiarity make Ryan less dominant. I was looking at his stats last night when this discussion came up and was very surprised that he holds 3 all-time records. Of course, I knew about the strikeouts and walks. But, I was frankly shocked to see that he also holds the MLB record for lowest career hits per nine innings (at 6.6). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: It would be interesting to see how Ryan's fastball translated to today's game. Hitters are used to seeing triple digit heat nowadays. With it being more common, does the familiarity make Ryan less dominant. I was looking at his stats last night when this discussion came up and was very surprised that he holds 3 all-time records. Of course, I knew about the strikeouts and walks. But, I was frankly shocked to see that he also holds the MLB record for lowest career hits per nine innings (at 6.6). Ryan's great curve paired with his heater would make him a dominant pitcher in today's game. Seems like these young flamethrowers today often are missing a "secondary" pitch that they can throw for strikes. Or maybe it is just me as I don't watch as much baseball as I did 30 years ago? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, rico said: Ryan's great curve paired with his heater would make him a dominant pitcher in today's game. Seems like these young flamethrowers today often are missing a "secondary" pitch that they can throw for strikes. Or maybe it is just me as I don't watch as much baseball as I did 30 years ago? When a guy throws 100+ and then you get something that looks like it's coming at your noggin before diving into the strike zone, that'll get your attention... Quickly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: It would be interesting to see how Ryan's fastball translated to today's game. Hitters are used to seeing triple digit heat nowadays. With it being more common, does the familiarity make Ryan less dominant. I was looking at his stats last night when this discussion came up and was very surprised that he holds 3 all-time records. Of course, I knew about the strikeouts and walks. But, I was frankly shocked to see that he also holds the MLB record for lowest career hits per nine innings (at 6.6). Good question... I'm with @rico thinking that his devastating curveball would have made him dominant... Most hard throwers nowadays go more with a cutter or slider or even a change up... To me both the cutter and slider are thrown near fastball speeds and have some movement, and the change has the drastic speed reduction and some movement... But a good curve drastically changes the speed and has huge movement... I watched "The Captain" and Derek Jeter said he always looked fastball and adjusted to everything else. That was pretty much the philosophy I was taught. A guy with Ryan's speed you had little chance to begin with... Throw in that bender and you can see why the guy had 7 no-hitters... Bob Feller was Ryan before Ryan 🙂... Devastating fastball and curveball. He had 3 no-hitters and 12 (yes 12) one hitters in his career... And lost 4 years of his prime to military service... Edited October 27, 2022 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just to show, Nolan Ryan's first 3 years pitching for the Angels, he lost 48 games... With an aggregate ERA of 2.70... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, IUFLA said: Just to show, Nolan Ryan's first 3 years pitching for the Angels, he lost 48 games... With an aggregate ERA of 2.70... I looked up the years you mentioned. Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, rico said: I looked up the years you mentioned. Damn! I looked up and saw he was 62-48 in those years. What is amazing is having 100 decisions in a 3 year period where today most pitchers won't start 100 games in 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I looked up and saw he was 62-48 in those years. What is amazing is having 100 decisions in a 3 year period where today most pitchers won't start 100 games in 3 years. That's what pisses me off when I hear his detractors talk about his won/loss record... He pitched for a crappy team for a lot of years. I remember watching him on TV vs the White Sox in like 73, and I was wondering how anybody ever touched this guy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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