HoosierDom Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Inequality said: My point is that X’s absence isn’t the reason we lose basketball games. Which is what gets thrown around after every loss. Win with what you have and stop finding every excuse to pass blame. We have five on the floor that have dominated at a high level and that have randomly struggled. Folks act like we are playing with 4 players. X could have very well been that third piece the help pick up the slack. Or not as we also seen in the large sample size we can reference. The whole team minus Trace simply has to improve and there is no savior on the bench. What this team needs most is a guy that can get his own shots off the dribble, isn't afraid to let it fly when the occasion calls for it, and can guard the perimeter. It just so happens we have a guy who fits that exact description wearing street clothes on the bench. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I'm kind of depressed after this loss I was really hoping for a win. I don't have any analysis to offer that hasn't already been brought forth. I will say that I really appreciate the 100s of commenters that bring thoughtful discussion to EVERY post game loss and post win discussion thread. I live in a place where no one cares about Indiana basketball or even basketball in general and it's nice to be able to share the Indiana losses and wins with people that care as much about Indiana basketball as I do. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: I can see a conference tourney making sense for a one bid league. But a team with a losing regular season record shouldn't get in by winning a tourney. A part of me wants them to take a season and instead of conference tournaments just put everyone in the NCAA tournament. All in one and done. See how it goes. With the conference tournament everyone is already in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: With the conference tournament everyone is already in In a way but it isn't entirely randomized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: What this team needs most is a guy that can get his own shots off the dribble, isn't afraid to let it fly when the occasion calls for it, and can guard the perimeter. It just so happens we have a guy who fits that exact description wearing street clothes on the bench. I don't know. Not sure Duncomb is gonna guard the perimeter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, mrflynn03 said: In a way but it isn't entirely randomized. Well if they put everyone in, they would start it regionally which is what your conference is. They wouldn't just seed everyone 1-365 or however many teams are in D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: Well if they put everyone in, they would start it regionally which is what your conference is. They wouldn't just seed everyone 1-365 or however many teams are in D1 Conferences aren't isolated regionally like they once were. Hell, in a couple years the big ten will stretch from coast to coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: Conferences aren't isolated regionally like they once were. Hell, in a couple years the big ten will stretch from coast to coast. From sea to shining sea.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: From sea to shining sea.... Dangit, can't rename the big ten because conference USA is already taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: What this team needs most is a guy that can get his own shots off the dribble, isn't afraid to let it fly when the occasion calls for it, and can guard the perimeter. It just so happens we have a guy who fits that exact description wearing street clothes on the bench. Yes!! It's deeper than just "XJs talent". It's what we were missing great post, all of that coupled with what @Steubenhoosier mentioned with an incredible amount more depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Muddy River said: You do know those other kids are on scholarship too, right? Or do you really expect IU to go undefeated every year? I do.... Heck I'm a Yankee fan and we think they should win a WS every year!! 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Dangit, can't rename the big ten because conference USA is already taken. As does the American Conference 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, HoosierDom said: What this team needs most is a guy that can get his own shots off the dribble, isn't afraid to let it fly when the occasion calls for it, and can guard the perimeter. It just so happens we have a guy who fits that exact description wearing street clothes on the bench. Amen to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHoosier Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Inequality said: Who is “he”? I’ve not once named anyone. I was responding to the board as a whole in reference to the floated speculation that we win this game or that game with X. Never did I mention Woodson. Of course health matters in sports lol. I don’t think anyone is debating the effect of injuries. I see a bench full of players capable of providing a breather and meaningful minutes. I guess it’s “dumb” to counter conjecture with the other side of conjecture. I am going to be that guy. I'll say the obligatory "i'm not a coach," so i'm dumb, but why does a sixth year senior stay in the game after multiple mistakes, but more talented (at least physically) players get yanked much quicker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: I'm kind of depressed after this loss I was really hoping for a win. I don't have any analysis to offer that hasn't already been brought forth. I will say that I really appreciate the 100s of commenters that bring thoughtful discussion to EVERY post game loss and post win discussion thread. I live in a place where no one cares about Indiana basketball or even basketball in general and it's nice to be able to share the Indiana losses and wins with people that care as much about Indiana basketball as I do. I understand…I live in NC, and of course, it’s all about Duke and UNC around here…which makes me gag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 The real issue yesterday was we didn’t hit perimeter shots JHS missed some shots he had been making. He makes a few of those and we have game pressure on PSU. The defense could have fees off that. It’s simple we need to make some jump shots. Do that and we can beat any team we play. Don’t and we can loose to any body. It makes the tournament scary. But this team can play with anybody or get rolled by a good guard oriented team. Not sure they can shoot good for two or 3 games in row I know most don’t like Bates. But he needs to be aggressive next week and look for his shots. Shot fake and one or two dribbles and fire 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: I understand…I live in NC, and of course, it’s all about Duke and UNC around here…which makes me gag! Stay strong in the land of NCAA violations, fake classes and ESPN nonsense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Inequality said: Who is “he”? I’ve not once named anyone. I was responding to the board as a whole in reference to the floated speculation that we win this game or that game with X. Never did I mention Woodson. Of course health matters in sports lol. I don’t think anyone is debating the effect of injuries. I see a bench full of players capable of providing a breather and meaningful minutes. I guess it’s “dumb” to counter conjecture with the other side of conjecture. The "he" was Woodson. He had mentioned the injuries several times. Was he making an excuse? Who knows, but he definitely brought them up and the need to be healthy throughout the season. Yes, we have a bench full of players, but nobody on IU's bench is as good of a point guard as XJ. There's a reason he was the starting point guard, because he was better and more impactful at that position then anyone else. Of course guys step up when there are injuries, but in most cases it's not enough and it hurts the depth of the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Question - why does it always take us half the game, and digging ourselves a big hole, to start defending the 3, especially against good shooting teams? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntnfreak Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Question - why does it always take us half the game, and digging ourselves a big hole, to start defending the 3, especially against good shooting teams? We’re dumb. I mean..it’s not like we don’t watch film on our opponents and come up with a game plan, but we choose to not execute!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Huntnfreak said: We’re dumb. I mean..it’s not like we don’t watch film on our opponents and come up with a game plan, but we choose to not execute!! It was a rhetorical question, and I didn’t want to say it, but you’re absolutely right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntnfreak Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, Hoosier4Life53 said: It was a rhetorical question, and I didn’t want to say it, but you’re absolutely right. It’s way easier in my world to just keep it real and say what is real. The eyes don’t lie…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntnfreak Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Penn St has some dawgs!!!! I wish we had a fraction of their fight……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Huntnfreak said: Penn St has some dawgs!!!! I wish we had a fraction of their fight……. You mean like last night when we just did the exact same thing at the end of the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Huntnfreak said: It’s way easier in my world to just keep it real and say what is real. The eyes don’t lie…. 9 minutes ago, Huntnfreak said: It’s way easier in my world to just keep it real and say what is real. The eyes don’t lie…. No they don’t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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