OGIUAndy Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, IUALUM03 said: I've thought Leal deserved more play since last year, but felt he wasn't getting it due to trying to give younger players with a higher ceiling a go for the longer-term future of the program. I believed now and believe even more it was a mistake. He has decent size, maturity/leadership, solid defense, and has a stroke. Only issue has been it is difficult it get in rhythm in 2 minute spurts every ten games. Woodson values versatility, not role players/specialists and it is a mistake. I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure he's dealt with a lot of injuries. One was more serious than has been discussed since people just assumed he wasn't playing because he wasn't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: In case anyone cares, I broke down some numbers because someone on a different site said we're a terrible 2nd half team, and it's actually the other way around: 2nd half scores Florida GC 37 IU 41 ARMY 33 IU 40 Wright St. 31 IU 35 UCONN 40 IU 27 Louisville. 37 IU 40 Harvard 36 IU 50 MD 25 IU 25 MIch. 36 IU 41 Auburn 52 IU 42 KU 43 IU 31 Morehead 32 IU 44 N.Alabama 32 IU 40 Kennesaw 41 IU 50 Nebraska 45 IU 37 OSU 27 IU 34 Rutgers 36 IU 30 Minn. 31 IU 33 PU 36 IU 37 Wisky 52 IU 53 ILL 32 IU 28 Iowa 40 IU 35 2nd half Them 774 IU 793 1st half Them 775 IU 752 Total Them 1549 IU 1545 I could be off, but I double checked this a couple of times (only the second half scores) then just subtracted those points from the total scored/given up. It's because IU has been outscored in the second half in 6 of the 8 losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: It's because IU has been outscored in the second half in 6 of the 8 losses. My guess is most teams loses are no different. Regardless, I think this team's bigger issue is the first half, not the second. Specifically the last 10 minutes of the first half; leads tend to shrink and deficits seem to grow. They seem to start decent enough then fade not a coincidently, when the bench gets more minutes (Woody does the NBA shift). This has been very obvious watching and statistically. Edited January 31 by OGIUAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Anthony Leal is on the HH podcast as of this morning. Interview starts at 27:40 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, DWB said: Anthony Leal is on the HH podcast as of this morning. Interview starts at 27:40 That was awesome... I loved his message to the fan base... "Love you guys, appreciate the support, but sometimes you need to shut up." 😂😂😂 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: That was awesome... I loved his message to the fan base... "Love you guys, appreciate the support, but sometimes you need to shut up." 😂😂😂 Don't mind that quote one bit. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Don't mind that quote one bit. Me either... I wonder how they feel if/when they read a forum like this after a loss? Do they laugh? Get pissed? But that quote tells me they do hear it... Probably moreso on social media than places like this... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Me either... I wonder how they feel if/when they read a forum like this after a loss? Do they laugh? Get pissed? But that quote tells me they do hear it... Probably moreso on social media than places like this... I highly doubt they read these forums. Probably more social media driven. Like how Kopp was on twitter alot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 hours ago, DWB said: Anthony Leal is on the HH podcast as of this morning. Interview starts at 27:40 Huh. I thought the thing about Anthony Leal was he was supposed to have good judgment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I highly doubt they read these forums. Probably more social media driven. Like how Kopp was on twitter alot. You'd be surprised. I know the parents do....been countless of examples of parents going rogue on message boards. Honestly unless I was the most head strong person in the world or better yet the leader of a top 5 team I'd probably have to cut ties with social media in an up and down season. Problem is social media is where they make the loot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: Me either... I wonder how they feel if/when they read a forum like this after a loss? Do they laugh? Get pissed? But that quote tells me they do hear it... Probably moreso on social media than places like this... If the players come to a place like this, that's on them. This doesn't go out into the world, you have to want to read this to ever come across it and you know, or should know, that critical comments will be posted. Something like Twitter is different. Complaining about a player there goes out into the world for people, including the players themselves, to encounter even if they don't want to. There is no reason for a player to be here unless they want to know how I feel about them shooting long 2's. There are plenty of reasons for a kid to be on actual social media platforms that have nothing to do with my take on his game, so he should be able to go to those places without ever knowing my thoughts on his play. Edited February 1 by HoosierDom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 20 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: You'd be surprised. I know the parents do....been countless of examples of parents going rogue on message boards. Honestly unless I was the most head strong person in the world or better yet the leader of a top 5 team I'd probably have to cut ties with social media in an up and down season. Problem is social media is where they make the loot. I thought for a while there that Leal's mom posted here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 21 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: You'd be surprised. I know the parents do....been countless of examples of parents going rogue on message boards. Honestly unless I was the most head strong person in the world or better yet the leader of a top 5 team I'd probably have to cut ties with social media in an up and down season. Problem is social media is where they make the loot. That sounds great, but i would think some NIL deals are, at least in part tied to presence of social media. I know I see posts all of the time with some player advertising something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 28 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: If the players come to a place like this, that's on them. This doesn't go out into the world, you have to want to read this to ever come across it and you know, or should know, that critical comments will be posted. Something like Twitter is different. Complaining about a player there goes out into the world for people, including the players themselves, to encounter even if they don't want to. There is no reason for a player to be here unless they want to know how I feel about them shooting long 2's. There are plenty of reasons for a kid to be on actual social media platforms that have nothing to do with my take on his game, so he should be able to go to those places without ever knowing my thoughts on his play. I did qualify my statement saying probably more social media driven, but people are curious, and I don't think it'd take too much to formulate a search that would find this place... That's how I found it... Googled Indiana basketball forum 5 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I thought for a while there that Leal's mom posted here. She did, and was always very sweet. We had a running joke about her amazing meatloaf. I believe she corrected us and said her meatloaf is only average, but her lasagna was off the charts. Happy for her and Anthony's family after his performance the other night. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, HoosierDom said: If the players come to a place like this, that's on them. This doesn't go out into the world, you have to want to read this to ever come across it and you know, or should know, that critical comments will be posted. Something like Twitter is different. Complaining about a player there goes out into the world for people, including the players themselves, to encounter even if they don't want to. There is no reason for a player to be here unless they want to know how I feel about them shooting long 2's. There are plenty of reasons for a kid to be on actual social media platforms that have nothing to do with my take on his game, so he should be able to go to those places without ever knowing my thoughts on his play. There's also no reason any adult/human should complain about someone else playing a sport the way many do. But yes, I agree, there is no reason for a player to be on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: But yes, I agree, there is no reason for a player to be on this forum. Even if they're simply reading it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Even if they're simply reading it? I couldn't handle it mentally, and I sure as poo poo wouldn't come here for advice as a player or coach lol Edited February 1 by ledies22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Just now, IUFLA said: Even if they're simply reading it? IMO- no. I fail to see any good that would come from it, and quite a few ways that it could be bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, btownqb said: IMO- no. I fail to see any good that would come from it, and quite a few ways that it could be bad. Don't they read basically the same stuff on X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, ledies22 said: I couldn't handle it mentally, and I sure a poo poo wouldn't come here for advice as a player or coach lol No, but as I said, people are curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Don't they read basically the same stuff on X? Brother--- I wouldn't read that either. Both of them-- counterproductive, I wouldn't participate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I can’t think of any social media that you could objectively say is good to read or take part in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, btownqb said: There's also no reason any adult/human should complain about someone else playing a sport the way many do. Now THAT is 💯 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: I did qualify my statement saying probably more social media driven, but people are curious, and I don't think it'd take too much to formulate a search that would find this place... That's how I found it... Googled Indiana basketball forum 5 years ago... I didn't mean my post as an attack on yours. More of an agreement, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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