IUFLA Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said: Given that Jiffy Treat is closed at that hour that's also loitering. Loitering! The horror! What's next? Jaywalking? Littering? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Loitering! The horror! What's next? Jaywalking? Littering? Context my friend. Use it next time. Edited October 23, 2023 by IndyResident16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Loitering in that parking lot 🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: So is everyone just giving Woody and the coaches a pass on this? If this happened under CTC or Samscum's watch y'all would have been roasting them for not having control of their players and the quality of young men they were recruiting. This ain't the first incident on Woody's watch either. And l'm not as sure as some of y'all to believe alcohol or Mary Jane wasn't involved. Maybe the cops cut him a break on that since they knew who he was. Like really... who is sober at Taco Bell at 3 am on a Sunday morning? I'm braced for the answer to be... this was just a late night snack after a Cook Hall workout or that he was driving for Uber Eats. Go Hoosiers!!! I would have hoped everyone understood how stupid that was then and learned from it. And as far as the 2nd paragraph goes... if he was under the influence at all.. 1. the cops didn't do their job 2. he wouldn't have been released 2 hours after booking. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Tell City pretzels are awesome if you like hard pretzels. Way better than Snyders imo It would be the mustard part. Pretzels are fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: Loitering in that parking lot 🤣🤣🤣 At 3am, of a closed business, less than 100 yards from an address that you were just trespassed from. Context. Use it. Go home in that situation. It ain’t hard. The mental gymnastics being used to excuse this behavior is astounding. Edited October 23, 2023 by IndyResident16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said: At 3am, of a closed business, less than 100 yards from an address that you were just trespassed from. Context. Use it. Go home in that situation. It ain’t hard. The mental gymnastics being used to excuse this behavior is astounding. I agree, context is wildly important. Edited October 23, 2023 by btownqb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: I agree, context is wildly important. Right which is why loitering could be perfectly applied. There’s zero reason for MM to be idling in his car at 3am in an empty parking lot of a closed business less than 100 yards from a business he was just removed from for trespassing. Like I said, mental gymnastics. Edited October 23, 2023 by IndyResident16 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Hid a rule-breaking post. If you see something that breaks our rules, please don't quote (and further the spread) and simply report it. Thank you. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: So is everyone just giving Woody and the coaches a pass on this? If this happened under CTC or Samscum's watch y'all would have been roasting them for not having control of their players and the quality of young men they were recruiting. This ain't the first incident on Woody's watch either. Go Hoosiers!!! Let's wait and see how Coach Woodson handles it before we cast stones his way. As far as the comment about it not being the first incident, every coach at every single program in the country has to deal with these kind of things. My perspective is that this is a more serious incident than both the Windy City Five and Racer X. That said, if Coach doesnt hand out what I believe to be an appropriate punishment, I'll accept the fact he has more information than I do and move on. All that said, I do think this should be a learning experience for the whole team and not just MM. Whatever comes from it, all players and coaches alike need to understand this type of behavior is not acceptable. And that message needs to come from Coach Woodson. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, HoosierFaithful said: I never knew we had so many lawyers on HSN! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 I am going to make a general statement as I don’t want to get in the conversation going on and I think is relevant to general understanding of the issue. That Jiffy treat is literally right next to the TB. Odds are TB employees likely park in that lot as it’s adjacent and has a section people can park right next to the TB property. I think it’s important to note, whether being told he was being arrested or not, that moving to that lot didn’t do anything to remove him from the situation IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUALUM03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, IndyResident16 said: I don't think moving your car 100 feet after being escorted off the premises of a business that you just had an altercation with while waiting for the police to leave before going back over there is the de-escalation you think it is. Given that Jiffy Treat is closed at that hour that's also loitering. I'm sure after so many times of telling someone to go home they had no other choice. He was waiting on his father supposedly. From TOS. I think it is valid that this is a kid who is away from home for the first time and was probably scared/not sure how to handle. Also, HoosierHoopster is a lawyer, so there is some validity in what he saying/asking. Edited October 23, 2023 by IUALUM03 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, IUALUM03 said: He was waiting on his father supposedly. From TOS. Also, HoosierHoopster is a lawyer, so there is some validity in what he saying. He didn't get bailed out until 5:45 or something like that... I'd have wanted to get out of there faster... I'd have called XJ... 🙂 Edited October 23, 2023 by IUFLA 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said: I am going to make a general statement as I don’t want to get in the conversation going on and I think is relevant to general understanding of the issue. That Jiffy treat is literally right next to the TB. Odds are TB employees likely park in that lot as it’s adjacent and has a section people can park right next to the TB property. I think it’s important to note, whether being told he was being arrested or not, that moving to that lot didn’t do anything to remove him from the situation IMO. Thanks for clarifying that. Back in my day the Jiffy Treat and Taco Bell weren’t close to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Off subject, can we get a thread going about Dan Dakich ridiculous tweets? He put a doozy out about this. 😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, IUALUM03 said: He was waiting on his father supposedly. From TOS. I think it is valid that this is a kid who is away from home for the first time and was probably scared/not sure how to handle. Also, HoosierHoopster is a lawyer, so there is some validity in what he saying/asking. If that’s true… Wow is all I’ve got right now. Shame on the police, and shame on many of you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Reacher said: Good points. We are discussing MM. I'd imagine the manager of the TB has talked to the employees there and the police chief has talked to their officers. There may be consequences for them but it is unlikely we will ever know about it. Maybe there are Taco Bell and police message boards where that side is being discussed? 😁 Here, on a bball board, the main focus will be on MM. Regardless of the Taco Bell employees and police response, MM could have, should have handled things better. We have the benefit of hindsight and more life experience whereas he is young and was the one actually dealing with the issue in real time. Not a single person has said MM shouldn’t have handled things differently. Do you want your kids to get arrested and have a window broken just because they could have handled something better? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Not a single person has said MM shouldn’t have handled things differently. Do you want your kids to get arrested and have a window broken just because they could have handled something better? Kids? Probably not. An ex-wife or two......... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Kids? Probably not. An ex-wife or two......... Do you still think 6 games and all the other crappy things you said about MM now that it appears he was trying to call his parents when the cops busted his window? . Edited October 23, 2023 by KoB2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Hey, let's not get personal here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, HoosierFaithful said: Hey, let's not get personal here. I hear you, but I think when you have folks coming out of the woodwork for the first time in months to dump on our own player it's inevitable that they're going to hear about how crappy their positions were when more facts emerge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I hear you, but I think when you have folks coming out of the woodwork for the first time in months to dump on our own player it's inevitable that they're going to hear about how crappy their positions were when more facts emerge. Regardless of what he was trying to do, he still made poor decisions and acted horribly in this situation. And there’s no excuse for that Edited October 23, 2023 by Steubenhoosier 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 It's a message board. People are going to say things you disagree with. All anyone can control is what they post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: Regardless of what he was trying to do, he still made poor decisions and acted horribly in this situation. Not a single person has denied that. That does not mean he should have had his window busted or been arrested. Right now, it sure looks like the cops escalated rather than deescalated the situation. Cops should be held to a significantly higher standard than the teenagers involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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