IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Not against the law...If it was, I'd probably have a rap sheet (never been arrested) Not true, as @mrflynn03 posted, they determined (between themselves) that he'd be arrested...they didn't inform him of the fact until after he moved... Irrespective, he was given a command to exit the vehicle as he was being placed under arrest. He refused. His window was subsequently broken after refusing. Again, not hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Respectfully, you aren't being realistic. At all. I'm not? How so? It makes infinitely more sense to me to try, any way possible, to contact the homeowner before storming the house. That's not even a question in my mind...Hell, just sit there for a minute after you get there and see if shots are being fired or anything else for that matter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: It's right next to one. He wasn't downtown. He was by Target on 3rd St. OK. I figured it was downtown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: It's right next to one. He wasn't downtown. He was by Target on 3rd St. So the Walnut Street Taco Bell with the sheety reputation isnt even the one in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Not against the law...If it was, I'd probably have a rap sheet (never been arrested) Not true, as @mrflynn03 posted, they determined (between themselves) that he'd be arrested...they didn't inform him of the fact until after he moved... He wasn't arrested for being a dick. Him being a dick just gives some insight into his state of mind at the time. He was arrested for trespassing. Taco Bell has property rights. If they tell him he has to go because he is arguing with their employees, he has to go. They may have crappy service but it is their property and they can decide who they want to be there. You punish them by not doing business with them anymore or by using your very large social media presence to dog them. A Twitter post from MM would have been more damaging than anything he was doing. On the rest, Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation for him being followed and arrested is that he knew they were going to arrest him and so he took off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said: Anybody defending MM clearly has an agenda with law enforcement. I'm sure MM is a good kid at heart but this was a pure act of entitlement. What is it that kids say these days, "F*** around and Find Out"? That's exactly what happened here, hopefully he learns from it but there's no excuse for his behavior. Officers were well within their means to arrest him and gave him more than enough chances. Shocked it took 15 minutes disobeying lawful commands before finally being placed under arrest. I don't have an agenda against law enforcement. I'm just not going to elevate them or put them on a pedestal. They're citizens too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: So the Walnut Street Taco Bell with the sheety reputation isnt even the one in question? with that amount of shitty reviews.. I'd say it's safe to say this one isn't well ran either. Edited October 23, 2023 by btownqb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: It's right next to one. He wasn't downtown. He was by Target on 3rd St. It's Chick-fil-A's fault for not being open on Sundays. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, 5fouls said: It's Chick-fil-A's fault for not being open on Sundays. Seeeeee... now we've found the root issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 So....I guess I'm the only one that has disobeyed commands and ran from the cops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: with that amount of shitty reviews.. I'd say it's safe to say this one isn't well ran either. Maybe so, but I find it interesting that the IU fan base was so quick to assume it was the notorious Taco Bell on Walnut Street. Seems like an attempt to deflect blame without even having the facts right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: with that amount of shitty reviews.. I'd say it's safe to say this one isn't well ran either. And the ones giving 5* are probably like me just trying to enjoy a meal in my ignorant bliss! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, mrflynn03 said: So....I guess I'm the only one that has disobeyed commands and ran from the cops? no lol... especially not alone when I was < 22 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: So....I guess I'm the only one that has disobeyed commands and ran from the cops? Is that something you're proud of? What's your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said: Is that something you're proud of? What's your point? It was 20 years ago when I was in college. My point. Just because they are cops doesn't mean they are automatically right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Maybe so, but I find it interesting that the IU fan base was so quick to assume it was the notorious Taco Bell on Walnut Street. Seems like an attempt to deflect blame without even having the facts right. It's more like anyone who's ever spent time in Bloomington, especially in an "after-midnight setting"... knows TB downtown is absolutely garbage, so we all just assumed it was that one. Too bad MM is an out-of-towner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: It was 20 years ago when I was in college. My point. Just because they are cops doesn't mean they are automatically right. If a cop tells you to exit your vehicle because you're under arrest it means exactly what you think it means. Again, don't overthink this. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: So....I guess I'm the only one that has disobeyed commands and ran from the cops? I never had the police called on me in my whole life so I have never disobeyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: It's more like anyone who's ever spent time in Bloomington, especially in an "after-midnight setting"... knows TB downtown is absolutely garbage, so we all just assumed it was that one. Too bad MM is an out-of-towner. I've been to Bloomington a lot. Only live 45 minutes away and have worked there. Even I know not to go to that Taco Bell. But being in Bloomington why the hell would you go to taco bell anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Maybe so, but I find it interesting that the IU fan base was so quick to assume it was the notorious Taco Bell on Walnut Street. Seems like an attempt to deflect blame without even having the facts right. I, for one love Taco Bell, especially late. This could have all been avoided if he would have just gone to my #1 late, late night food venue! White Castle..... AHHHHHH, Yessss! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW75 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Body Cam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Artesian_86 said: I, for one love Taco Bell, especially late. This could have all been avoided if he would have just gone to my #1 late, late night food venue! White Castle..... AHHHHHH, Yessss! Savages. Eat Pizza X/Hotbox late at night like the rest of civilized people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I'm still convinced some of the opinions on here are based on part that, this is not only an IU basketball player, but a 5 star recruit that will be heavily relied upon. If this was a non-athlete student, or even a walk-on basketball player, the customer in this drama would universally be viewed as a giant ash-hole. Some of the views here seem to justifying a sense of entitlement because MM is a star athlete. And, from the information that has been provided, I interpret the concept of 'entitlement' by MM to be the root cause of the whole situation. Just my opinion. I can assure you, my default position would not be the workers at Taco Bell on Walnut and Bloomington PD used good judgement and discretion no matter who the student was. I think most people “defending” MM agree he didn’t handle things well, the issue is nothing he did should result in getting a window busted and physically dragged out of a car. If the police can’t successfully deescalate without violence (and I’d even argue they did successfully deescalate, it just wasn’t good enough), then they should find a new line of work. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 @bluegrassIU Ooh, ooh I just remembered being woke up @ 1:30 last night with 5or6 pops in quick succession! I wonder what that was about? Maybe MM was in town? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I never had the police called on me in my whole life so I have never disobeyed them. I envy you. I've had police encounters since grade school because of an abusive household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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