IowaHoosierFan Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 19 hours ago, Maedhros said: FWIW, here are the current projections at BartTorvik: 6 - UCLA 9 - Purdue 15 - Michigan St 16 - Indiana 20 - Nebraska 21 - Michigan 25 - Rutgers 27 - Northwestern 29 - USC 32 - Wisconsin 34 - Ohio St 39 - Maryland 41 - Oregon 54 - Iowa 65 - Illinois 66 - Minnesota 78 - Washington 85 - Penn St And filling all that out just confirms the Big Ten has entirely too many teams. Teams will continue filling out their rosters over the weeks to come, so with a mostly set roster it's possible we could get jumped. Michigan adding Goldin today gave them a big boost. Also, I suppose the portal is still open for another day or so, and you might still see guys leave; Illinois lost another just today. Don't we still have 2 open scholarship? We could add some talent still i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 21 hours ago, tdhoosier said: Michigan may be a dark horse. Dusty is pulling in some good transfers and it will be hard to root against him. I’ll definitely be interested to see some their games next season. Won't be hard for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 4 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: Won't be hard for me. I get it. I'll feel dirty. I just really like Dusty. Listen to his Hoosier Hysterics interview, it's hard not to like the man. I hope he does well at UM and when the time comes he'll have proven enough to be our next coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 36 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Don't we still have 2 open scholarship? We could add some talent still i guess Being greedy I’m still holding out for someone who can put Malik on the bench!😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 39 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Don't we still have 2 open scholarship? We could add some talent still i guess Sure. Adding Hemenway bumps us up from 17 (as of this morning) to 15. He'd project for about 15 minutes a game, ahead of Goode in the rotation actually. Adding Konstantynovskyi wouldn't move the needle. 14 is about as high as we get, even adding two of the top remaining transfers like Johnell Davis and Great Osobor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) My somewhat realistic hope? Big Ten Champs, E8 or better. My pessimistic guess? 5th in B1G, lose in second round as a 6 seed. Woody gets extended. Edited April 30 by madmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 25 minutes ago, Maedhros said: Sure. Adding Hemenway bumps us up from 17 (as of this morning) to 15. He'd project for about 15 minutes a game, ahead of Goode in the rotation actually. Adding Konstantynovskyi wouldn't move the needle. 14 is about as high as we get, even adding two of the top remaining transfers like Johnell Davis and Great Osobor. So we signed someone else? Hemenway? I don't know anything about this kid. Any more info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 9 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: So we signed someone else? Hemenway? I don't know anything about this kid. Any more info Not signed. Recruiting. Transfer from Clemson, played HS ball in Indiana. 40% type 3% shooter with decent size. There are a handful of posts about him in the recruiting/transfer forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 13 minutes ago, madmax said: My somewhat realistic hope? Big Ten Champs, E8 or better. My pessimistic guess? 5th in B1G, lose in second round as a 6 seed. Woody gets extended. I feel both of these are very possible outcomes. It is definitely a pivotal season. I am not sure how many more disappointing "pivotal" seasons this fan base can take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Drroogh said: Being greedy I’m still holding out for someone who can put Malik on the bench!😁 Don't understand the hate on Reneau. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHoosier Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 14 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Don't understand the hate on Reneau. I'm reminded of what one coach said about Cazzie Russell and his defense when he played at Michigan (led them to a championship game against UCLA) " He keeps both teams in the game" Edited April 30 by MSHoosier didn't complete the quote 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Don't understand the hate on Reneau. Not hate at all! I hope Malik has his best year yet! But imagine if someone good enough to put Malik on the bench was on the team! Everyone is talking about bench players, I want starters!😎 Edited April 30 by Drroogh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 7 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Not hate at all! I hope Malik has his best year yet! But imagine if someone good enough to put Malik on the bench was on the team! Everyone is talking about bench players, I want starters!😎 Our starting 5 is already set. No starting caliber player will come here with this roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Our starting 5 is already set. No starting caliber player will come here with this roster. Ask around, I’ll bet you get a wide range of opinions about the starting 5! Besides, who’s to say someone testing the NBA looks around and says I like what IU’s got going! One can dream!😴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 37 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Our starting 5 is already set. No starting caliber player will come here with this roster. If a transfer was good enough, then they wouldn't worry about who we currently think are the starters. But yea, highly unlikely we supplant a starter with someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Drroogh said: But imagine if someone good enough to put Malik on the bench was on the team! That's kind of a tall order... He'd have to average 15 ppg on 56% shooting overall and 33% from 3...and be named Honorable Mention All Conference at a P6 school... I'll agree Malik's got a lot of room for improvement, particularly in rebounding and defense, but he has pretty good handles, and is underrated as a passer in my book. He worked to get his body good last year...this year I'd imagine he'll be on the same regimen Woody had Trayce on his last 2 years... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Don't understand the hate on Reneau. Agree. Then I mentioned, "I don't care if Cupps transfers on BTBers" (with the context of Hemenway committing) and it was like I told them to learn Spanish. Some guys catch flak, some get passes. Idc that Cupps was a FR, he wasn't good, at all. Malik is a stud and needs more coaching and skill development. Malik SO eFG%- .579 TJD SR eFG%- .581 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: Agree. Then I mentioned, "I don't care if Cupps transfers on BTBers" (with the context of Hemenway committing) and it was like I told them to learn Spanish. Some guys catch flak, some get passes. Idc that Cupps was a FR, he wasn't good, at all. Malik is a stud and needs more coaching and skill development. Malik SO eFG%- .579 TJD SR eFG%- .581 I saw that over there. Those guys are EDIT over there. I lurk once in awhile but won't really post things over there. They are still keeping up their fire Woodson thread and had like me 4 pages yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I saw that over there. Those guys are (edited by blue) over there. I lurk once in awhile but won't really post things over there. They are still keeping up their fire Woodson thread and had like me 4 pages yesterday Let's not resort to name calling. Different boards, different "culture". Everybody can pick where they feel they fit, or participate at both. No reason for attacks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, iuswingman said: If a transfer was good enough, then they wouldn't worry about who we currently think are the starters. But yea, highly unlikely we supplant a starter with someone else. no offense, but this is the on of the silliest things I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ledies22 said: no offense, but this is the on of the silliest things I see. how so? I never commented on the likelihood of it happening but was explaining what the other poster was getting at since scott had missed the point. There is nothing earth shattering about the point and it isn't wrong by any stretch. If someone was better than our starters, then our starters wouldn't scare them away from committing. Here's an example. Lets say Sparks was still on the team and he was penciled in as starter because he was the only center on the team. Do you really think Ballo would say "well, they can't offer me playing time so I'm going elsewhere"? And no, I don't think we'll be pulling in another transfer that will be a starter level player this coming year (barring injuries). Edited April 30 by iuswingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 9 minutes ago, iuswingman said: how so? I never commented on the likelihood of it happening but was explaining what the other poster was getting at since scott had missed the point. There is nothing earth shattering about the point and it isn't wrong by any stretch. If someone was better than our starters, then our starters wouldn't scare them away from committing. Here's an example. Lets say Sparks was still on the team and he was penciled in as starter because he was the only center on the team. Do you really think Ballo would say "well, they can't offer me playing time so I'm going elsewhere"? And no, I don't think we'll be pulling in another transfer that will be a starter level player this coming year (barring injuries). You're comparisons are off. In that scenario yes. In our actual scenario no. With the amount of talent that IU has stack up on the squad, there is not a single player that would say..... you know what. I am going to go there start, play 35 minutes a game, and have a 35% usage rate. Of course, if we had a team stocked with Tim Prillers a team full of Sparks could come in and start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ledies22 said: You're comparisons are off. In that scenario yes. In our actual scenario no. With the amount of talent that IU has stack up on the squad, there is not a single player that would say..... you know what. I am going to go there start, play 35 minutes a game, and have a 35% usage rate. Of course, if we had a team stocked with Tim Prillers a team full of Sparks could come in and start. My comparison isn't off. You're just desperate to miss the point. And IU isn't the national all-star team that there is no possible transfer that could beat out one of our starters. As I said, it is unlikely that we get another transfer that would supplant a starter this coming season but it's not the impossibility that you make it out to be and doesn't negate the point that great players would not be scared off by competition for playing time. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill in order to have a pointless debate. Edited April 30 by iuswingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I'm desperate. You're delusional. Name 5 kids that would look at IU's roster and say.... That they would walk in start, play 35 minutes, and a high usage rate. Because these kids you're talking about that "if they are that good" they dont just want to start, they want to play that much and shoot 17+ times a game. You were comparing Ballo to replacing Sparks after stating that someone would walk in and replace Ballo (not specifically). The talent level is indeed-y-o off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Zeesh, I’m sorry I was dreaming out loud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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