IU Scott Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 14 minutes ago, Maedhros said: Some of you in this thread desperately need to touch grass. It's just basketball, a child's game, played for your entertainment. If you aren't entertained, so be it, but that's not reason to act with the emotional intelligence of a child. The failures of Indiana Basketball are not malevolent acts directed at you personally, nor should they be met with such vitriol and bile. If you can't handle seasons like this without coming apart at the seams, you're clearly not built for this. Find other interests you can emotionally handle, or grow the **** up. I am sorry I don't do drugs 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DC2345 said: It’s sounding like a some of the big boosters are interested in having the conversation about moving on from Woodson at the end of the season. Dolson has a good pulse of what’s going on and what coaches are interested. It would nice to know who is interested….. I’m sure that info will be kept close to the vest. Edited February 26 by Artesian_86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 14 minutes ago, Indykev said: you are getting help @IU Scott He has a bigger platform than I do. I am some nobody fan who is to poor to donate big money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierHeroics Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 17 minutes ago, Maedhros said: Some of you in this thread desperately need to touch grass. It's just basketball, a child's game, played for your entertainment. If you aren't entertained, so be it, but that's not reason to act with the emotional intelligence of a child. The failures of Indiana Basketball are not malevolent acts directed at you personally, nor should they be met with such vitriol and bile. If you can't handle seasons like this without coming apart at the seams, you're clearly not built for this. Find other interests you can emotionally handle, or grow the **** up. Sitting through so many seasons like this are why we are so full of "such vitriol and bile". As far as touching the grass goes, you should roll us one out of your bag. Quit being so stingy cheech! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 56 minutes ago, DC2345 said: It’s sounding like a some of the big boosters are interested in having the conversation about moving on from Woodson at the end of the season. Dolson has a good pulse of what’s going on and what coaches are interested. Couldn't be further from the truth. No offense because I love the recruiting information you bring and I hope you continue to bring it but if Woodson leaves or isn't retained....it's not a booster influence this time. Our last 4 head coaches in the last 19 years yes....but this one no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 5fouls Posted February 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: It’s sounding like a some of the big boosters are interested in having the conversation about moving on from Woodson at the end of the season. Dolson has a good pulse of what’s going on and what coaches are interested. 18 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Couldn't be further from the truth. No offense because I love the recruiting information you bring and I hope you continue to bring it but if Woodson leaves or isn't retained....it's not a booster influence this time. Our last 4 head coaches in the last 19 years yes....but this one no. 2 posters I respect a great deal with totally opposite takes on the situation. That's okay, because it likely is a very fluid situation right now. I appreciate both you a great deal. That said, I've not enjoyed the team this season. I have great concern our season has damaged our staff's ability to fix this in the portal. Mike Woodson was my favorite IU player when I was growing up. I supported the hire and his time as a coach through December of this season. That's changed. I'm finding a hard time caring at all at this point. When things are going bad, I want to see some fire and emotion from the head coach. It can be Bob Knight's anger, or Tom Crean's cheerleading, just give me something. Woodson's not doing that and it frustrates me. I need that right now. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 57 minutes ago, 5fouls said: just give me something How about some grass? 😎 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrsStoller Posted February 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 26 43 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 2 posters I respect a great deal with totally opposite takes on the situation. That's okay, because it likely is a very fluid situation right now. I appreciate both you a great deal. That said, I've not enjoyed the team this season. I have great concern our season has damaged our staff's ability to fix this in the portal. Mike Woodson was my favorite IU player when I was growing up. I supported the hire and his time as a coach through December of this season. That's changed. I'm finding a hard time caring at all at this point. When things are going bad, I want to see some fire and emotion from the head coach. It can be Bob Knight's anger, or Tom Crean's cheerleading, just give me something. Woodson's not doing that and it frustrates me. I need that right now. Wish I could love this post 1,000 times. Right there with you. And I went to both games at Madison Square Garden, first time I’ve traveled like that to see my Hoosiers. My daughter lives there, so we went. Sigh. Red flag looking back is the speech Vic gave to the team. “It means something to put on these candy stripes.” At the time I passed it off, but it kind of lingered - why that speech then? Why the need to say that? Where was the leadership to instill that? Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I don’t think so. I truly hope the athletic department, BOT, and President Whitten are aware of the apathy setting in to the fan base. It’s approaching unprecedented levels, imo. I say again, I am the canary in the coal mine. To the poster who suggested it’s just a game, yeah, you’re right. But it’s also a business and it deserves to be treated as such. The business of IU bball currently employs some great talents who deserve better leadership, and the business of IU bball deserves to be put in the best position to succeed. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 58 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 2 posters I respect a great deal with totally opposite takes on the situation. That's okay, because it likely is a very fluid situation right now. I appreciate both you a great deal. That said, I've not enjoyed the team this season. I have great concern our season has damaged our staff's ability to fix this in the portal. Mike Woodson was my favorite IU player when I was growing up. I supported the hire and his time as a coach through December of this season. That's changed. I'm finding a hard time caring at all at this point. When things are going bad, I want to see some fire and emotion from the head coach. It can be Bob Knight's anger, or Tom Crean's cheerleading, just give me something. Woodson's not doing that and it frustrates me. I need that right now. This isn't fire and emotion? PXL_20240223_132349593~2.mp4 And I see him do this all the time. I don't think anyone is happy with the results this season... I'm not... Mike Woodson will be judged after the season is over, and that's the way it should be... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: 2 posters I respect a great deal with totally opposite takes on the situation. That's okay, because it likely is a very fluid situation right now. I appreciate both you a great deal. That said, I've not enjoyed the team this season. I have great concern our season has damaged our staff's ability to fix this in the portal. Mike Woodson was my favorite IU player when I was growing up. I supported the hire and his time as a coach through December of this season. That's changed. I'm finding a hard time caring at all at this point. When things are going bad, I want to see some fire and emotion from the head coach. It can be Bob Knight's anger, or Tom Crean's cheerleading, just give me something. Woodson's not doing that and it frustrates me. I need that right now. Sure do appreciate the kind words. I just happen to sit on the wrong side of the teeder todder or however that's spelled. Time will tell. All we want is IU to be good. That much I know we can agree on....and I'm sickin frickin tired of these conversations for sure. We love our team and defend it...just some of us defend longer but the end goal is the same. We love IU. Just win baby. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Indykev said: The big boosters had a get together to raise money and discuss some things. Woodson and the basketball program was a topic of discussion. Cuban was in town for the Pacers and Mavs game so it was a good time to get people together. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 8 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I can't offer up anything more than what's been hashed and rehashed. I think he took TJD from having to learn a foreign language to making him by some accounts the steal of the draft. I see what he did with JHS. I saw the peak of Xavier towards end of 22.....I see what Trey has developed into. I also know there are several recruits and their families who love Woodson....so I'm factoring in that to my opinion as well. Again I've said this before. I'm more Pro Coach. Any Coach. I think we are all pro having a coach. If it is truly "any coach" then we should strive for a coach that increases our chances of success and I just don't see how keeping Woodson is good for our chances of getting better. In Vegas, a betting man isn't likely to put their money on Woodson turning this around. Edited February 26 by iuswingman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 How much if any does the recent success of Ohio St. (since firing Holtmann) have on IU and Woodson? I know they are not the Spartans of old, but there is something to be said about them winning on the road at Michigan St. There seems to be a resurgence of energy and a will to play to their potential. JMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 14 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: How much if any does the recent success of Ohio St. (since firing Holtmann) have on IU and Woodson? I know they are not the Spartans of old, but there is something to be said about them winning on the road at Michigan St. There seems to be a resurgence of energy and a will to play to their potential. JMO I don’t know what effect it has on IU, but OSU’s recent wins lead me to believe that the players didn’t buy into Holtman’s system. Like us, OSU has talent to win in the B1G, perhaps they were just being held back. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NCHoosier32 Posted February 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 26 26 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: How much if any does the recent success of Ohio St. (since firing Holtmann) have on IU and Woodson? I know they are not the Spartans of old, but there is something to be said about them winning on the road at Michigan St. There seems to be a resurgence of energy and a will to play to their potential. JMO see, this is tough. i am 100% or getting rid of him after the season, but A. i don't want to see him embarrassed by being let go in the middle of the season and i'm sure we won't. maybe he sites health issues and steps down? B. we have to be careful to hire the right guy this time. i don't see a big advantage to having a current assistant finish the season. our season will be over before most teams any way, so we hit the trail hard after that. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Couldn't be further from the truth. No offense because I love the recruiting information you bring and I hope you continue to bring it but if Woodson leaves or isn't retained....it's not a booster influence this time. Our last 4 head coaches in the last 19 years yes....but this one no. Just curious, who do you think is the influence this time as opposed to the boosters, who you seem to suggest were the influence the previous times? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Just curious, who do you think is the influence this time as opposed to the boosters, who you seem to suggest were the influence the previous times? Are you indicating it will be the board or specifically the Chairman of said board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 13 hours ago, DC2345 said: It’s sounding like a some of the big boosters are interested in having the conversation about moving on from Woodson at the end of the season. Dolson has a good pulse of what’s going on and what coaches are interested. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Couldn't be further from the truth. No offense because I love the recruiting information you bring and I hope you continue to bring it but if Woodson leaves or isn't retained....it's not a booster influence this time. Our last 4 head coaches in the last 19 years yes....but this one no. Oh I know they aren't the driving factor. Dolson is the driving factor this time but he has to have the funds and support to make sure everything lines up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: Just curious, who do you think is the influence this time as opposed to the boosters, who you seem to suggest were the influence the previous times? I think this one is a Dolson call. Obviously things can change but to me this one is all on him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern IN Hoosier Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 1. Pearl 2. May 3. Oats Dolson wants to move on but trying to BOT on board with move and get the funds. 100% speculation Edited February 26 by Southern IN Hoosier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 20 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I think this one is a Dolson call. Obviously things can change but to me this one is all on him. I'm totally fine with him stepping up and taking ownership. It's his job. I'd still prefer Woodson retire for the greater good. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 21 minutes ago, Southern IN Hoosier said: 1. Pearl 2. May 3. Oats Dolson wants to move on but trying to BOT on board with move and get the funds. Is this your opinion or do you have a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Woodson's quotes just now in his presser were absolutely pathetic. This one especially: “It would have been nice to have Xavier Johnson. … Every year I’ve coached, when things don’t go well, I point the finger at me.” Woodson says he doesn’t blame the players and adds, “but I don’t miss wide open shots. I don’t miss free throws.” 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 not the way i remember it. MR was awful, trying to play a freshman point guard, injuries have killed us, we are very young, we miss to many open shots, and the list goes on. never once have we heard, i put together the worst roster in college basketball, my system doesnt work in the college game let me change it, my line ups suck. i would respect him if he just said it out loud. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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