rico Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Indy1987 said: And this isn't the news. Our opinions on here are just that. But when you have the CBS Morning news telling people their opinions it's no longer news. When a news person throws in their opinion it's them trying to influence their audience. There was a time when a story was a story and we as viewers could make our own decisions on a topic. Go Hoosiers!!! As I said earlier, sporting news has always taken on a degree of opinion. This same stuff was being talked about after Knight's chair throwing debacle in the media circuits that were in place at the time. Lots of opining goes on when a sports story is front page news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think he was talking about a sports talk show on CBS sports… You’re correct that a lot of what we consume as news today is editorial and most if not all should make that distinction more obvious. There have been “news” organizations sued and as their defense they argued no one should take them seriously - that’s sad, IMO. Maybe but I had CBS on this morning and the one dude on there did say Gard initiated it. Go Hoosiers!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: My bad - Elite Eight. I had a brain fart remembering the UCLA game last year. I do agree with the premise that Howard is imminently more qualified to be a head coach than Ewing or Hardaway... As far as him being a great coach, the jury is still out... His team underperformed his first year, exceeded expectations his second, and has again fallen short on expectations this year (although I thought at he beginning of the year they were way overrated). Until Phil Martelli retires, there will always be questions about his in game coaching... And so far, just based on yesterday he's not very good at the psychology of leadership in my opinion. I understand "playing the game to the end" but Davante Jones made a layup to cut the deficit to 14 with 22 seconds to play. Shot clock was off and Wisconsin was simply going to walk up the floor and stand at half court and dribble it out...but Michigan pressed... Now what was the motivation for that? What good does it do to try to embarrass walk-ons? The game was over... And @Billingsley99 is right... Ok, you want to coach til the clock says "0" then I will too... Was Gard wrong for hooking his arm (I'm surprised Bo Borowski didn't leap in and call a "hook and hold" 😁), um, maybe... But I can see Mike Woodson telling a coach off it if he thinks another he's is trying to show him or his team up...although I'm quite sure with Coach Woody it would stop there... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, rico said: The NBA ring makes up for that. lol Not in the coaching arena it doesn't... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Juwan Howard came into the spotlight with a group of guys in the early 90’s who certainly upended the norm in college basketball. IMO they reveled in the reputation of the word that shall not be mentioned here. They were in your face before that was really a thing and were disliked by most to the same extent, but for different reasons, that Wisconsin is disliked today. Of those guys, I always thought that Howard and King were always the two guys that were most capable of keeping a lid on the antics of Jalen Rose and Chris Weber. Maybe I was wrong about that. My point in bringing this up is that I think UM has long wanted to perpetuate this bad boy image, and in bringing Howard back as head coach, they knew that they would be taking on some risk. Clearly, almost 30 years later, Howard has not matured past what he and his teammates were when they were the Fab 5. I hold the university culpable and think that the AD’s statement will prove to be lip service. Howard will continue to coach and the outbursts yesterday and v Turgeon will be long forgotten. UM wants the reputation they have fostered, and with the recruitment of guys like Diate they don’t appear to be interested in changing their culture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) After watching the replay for the 100th time, UW asst got exactly what he deserved. Howard's stupid for allowing himself to be the one that threw the punch though. Was this the same guy who gave the WWE sign? Edited February 21, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: After watching the replay for the 100th time, UW asst got exactly what he deserved. Howard's stupid for allowing himself to be the one that threw the punch though. Was this the same guy who gave the WWE sign? So I guess I need to start taking the internet version of the Indy Star so I can read about when you wind up on the wrong side of one of theses deals 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: Maybe but I had CBS on this morning and the one dude on there did say Gard initiated it. Go Hoosiers!!! Just curious, but what program was on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: So I guess I need to start taking the internet version of the Indy Star so I can read about when you wind up on the wrong side of one of theses deals 😁 What deals? Lol sorry you lost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: Maybe but I had CBS on this morning and the one dude on there did say Gard initiated it. Go Hoosiers!!! Nate Burleson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: What deals? Lol sorry you lost me. Come on man...the whole episode... "Got exactly what he deserved." What, exactly, did he deserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Come on man...the whole episode... "Got exactly what he deserved." What, exactly, did he deserve? Exactly what he got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, rico said: Nate Burleson As in former NFL player, Nate Burleson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Juwan Howard came into the spotlight with a group of guys in the early 90’s who certainly upended the norm in college basketball. IMO they reveled in the reputation of the word that shall not be mentioned here. They were in your face before that was really a thing and were disliked by most to the same extent, but for different reasons, that Wisconsin is disliked today. Of those guys, I always thought that Howard and King were always the two guys that were most capable of keeping a lid on the antics of Jalen Rose and Chris Weber. Maybe I was wrong about that. My point in bringing this up is that I think UM has long wanted to perpetuate this bad boy image, and in bringing Howard back as head coach, they knew that they would be taking on some risk. Clearly, almost 30 years later, Howard has not matured past what he and his teammates were when they were the Fab 5. I hold the university culpable and think that the AD’s statement will prove to be lip service. Howard will continue to coach and the outbursts yesterday and v Turgeon will be long forgotten. UM wants the reputation they have fostered, and with the recruitment of guys like Diate they don’t appear to be interested in changing their culture Are you comparing talking a lot of crap on the court, wearing black socks and long shorts to a decade plus of dirty play? The only overlap I see is the trash talk… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Just curious, but what program was on? "CBS Mornings" I do believe is what it is called. A version of ABC's "Good Morning America." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: Exactly what he got. You don't think Howard swinging at Krabbenhoft shows a stunning lack of maturity? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: As in former NFL player, Nate Burleson? Yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Everyone talking suspensions. I’m thinking rematch B1G tourney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, IUFLA said: You don't think Howard swinging at Krabbenhoft shows a stunning lack of maturity? You don't think barging into a crowd the way Krabbenhoft did shows a stunning lack of maturity? I didnt say Howard was right. I said Krabbenhoft got exactly what he deserved. Which is rare in this instance. Blame is blame. Either Krabbenhoft has never had his clock cleaned, or he had no fear that it was going to happen. He should have realized with the energy he brought to that situation, getting smacked was a distinct possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Inequality said: Everyone talking suspensions. I’m thinking rematch B1G tourney. Seed every other team 1-12, but make UM and UW play each other. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: You don't think barging into a crowd the way Krabbenhoft did shows a stunning lack of maturity? Not even on the same plane... So if you would have been Howard, you would have thrown a punch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, IUFLA said: Not even on the same plane... So if you would have been Howard, you would have thrown a punch? What in the world? Did I say that? No. I said, you shouldn't be surprised by it. I said, Krabbenhoft got what he deserved. If you barge into a crowd the way he did, you should be punched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: What in the world? Did I say that? No. I said, you shouldn't be surprised by it. I said, Krabbenhoft got what he deserved. If you barge into a crowd the way he did, you should be punched. Normally if I say "got what he deserved" I'm thinking that it's what I would have done in a similar situation... "If you barge into a crowd the way he did, you should be punched." And this says to me you'd do the punching if he'd barged into a crowd you were part of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Howard deserves to be fired immediately. obviously, he is a racist and should be dealt with as such. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, jojo123 said: Howard deserves to be fired immediately. obviously, he is a racist and should be dealt with as such. Here's another explanation I'd like to see...How in the world does this paint Juwan Howard as a racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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