rico Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I think the upper classmen are resentful of Sensabaugh getting a lot of shots... Comparing their stats (and I know that's not a definitive measure) it's no contest... He should get the most shots because he's the most efficient scorer... He's not the best defender on the planet, but he seems to try... Holtmann's problem is that Sensabaugh is almost certainly headed to the league next year. Some of the others will be back... I just think Holtmann has handled his team poorly... So Key and Sueing are the issues? I can get behind that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, rico said: So Key and Sueing are the issues? I can get behind that. Oh I think Likekele and McNeil aren't happy about it either... Likekele and Sueing though, seem to think they can be the "go to" guys late in a game... And they haven't produced... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Oh I think Likekele and McNeil aren't happy about it either... Likekele and Sueing though, seem to think they can be the "go to" guys late in a game... And they haven't produced... If it wouldn't have been for Thorton on Sunday, the Bucks would have lost by 30. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I legit LOL’ed at that well done. He had some bogus rant today about Braden Smith not owning up to his turnover and Edey needing to come to his rescue. Just a hilariously bad take that even IU fans were giving him crap about. He’s just such a douche and I don’t think he actually has any closely held beliefs (other than his beef with IU for not being handed a coaching job that he wasn’t qualified for in any way), just constantly trying to stir the pot and see what sticks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I legit LOL’ed at that well done. He had some bogus rant today about Braden Smith not owning up to his turnover and Edey needing to come to his rescue. Just a hilariously bad take that even IU fans were giving him crap about. He adopted the shock jock mentality years ago. Whatever he can say to piss people off is what he’s going to do because it gets him the most attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, IUJoe said: He adopted the shock jock mentality years ago. Whatever he can say to piss people off is what he’s going to do because it gets him the most attention. Great way to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, Lostin76 said: He’s just such a douche and I don’t think he actually has any closely held beliefs (other than his beef with IU for not being handed a coaching job that he wasn’t qualified for in any way), just constantly trying to stir the pot and see what sticks. Makes sense to me. Trying to go full Clay Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: I legit LOL’ed at that well done. He had some bogus rant today about Braden Smith not owning up to his turnover and Edey needing to come to his rescue. Just a hilariously bad take that even IU fans were giving him crap about. IU fans give him crap a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Yeah he mooched pretty bad and just brushed it off like it wasn’t a big deal. He actually just got banned like a week ago. Went on a drunken tirade threatening to fight one of our posters lol. KyleHornsbyRules is back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Do y’all still like Dakich or has his shtick run thin on you? I think Dan is a decent basketball analyst, but unfortunately, he thinks he needs to play Howard Stern. I'm personally over him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: I think the upper classmen are resentful of Sensabaugh getting a lot of shots... Comparing their stats (and I know that's not a definitive measure) it's no contest... He should get the most shots because he's the most efficient scorer... He's not the best defender on the planet, but he seems to try... Holtmann's problem is that Sensabaugh is almost certainly headed to the league next year. Some of the others will be back... I just think Holtmann has handled his team poorly... Solid take, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Makes sense to me. Trying to go full Clay Travis. Clay Travis is likeably by comparison 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: I think the upper classmen are resentful of Sensabaugh getting a lot of shots... Comparing their stats (and I know that's not a definitive measure) it's no contest... He should get the most shots because he's the most efficient scorer... He's not the best defender on the planet, but he seems to try... Holtmann's problem is that Sensabaugh is almost certainly headed to the league next year. Some of the others will be back... I just think Holtmann has handled his team poorly... wins make all the difference…had they won 3 more of those closely contested games there would be no issue. The issue is more losing than who is doing all the scoring. I don’t see anyone on that team getting bent out of shape…young teams just struggle to learn how to win sometimes. Holtman is a good coach…a few timely shots and more importantly a few timely stops are what separates them from being bottom of the B1G and where they usually are. Let’s also not discount that the B1G has been dominated by teams with dominant bigs for several years now. OSU just doesn’t have a big to play through. If you don’t have a dominant big you better have a veteran point guard to really facilitate the offense. I look at typically great teams like OSU and Michigan St and I can see why they are struggling. They have neither..normally they have one or both. Edited February 7, 2023 by dgambill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Guess Holtmann is at a “fish bowl” job after all Edited February 7, 2023 by southsidehoosier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, IUJoe said: He adopted the shock jock mentality years ago. Whatever he can say to piss people off is what he’s going to do because it gets him the most attention. He also seems to go heavily unfairly after Indiana HS grads…because he knows they are well respected in his target audience and will rile people up. Was always going after Romeo too. Edited February 7, 2023 by dgambill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, dgambill said: wins make all the difference…had they won 3 more of those closely contested games there would be no issue. The issue is more losing than who is doing all the scoring. I don’t see anyone on that team getting bent out of shape…young teams just struggle to learn how to win sometimes. Holtman is a good coach…a few timely shots and more importantly a few timely stops are what separates them from being bottom of the B1G and where they usually are. Let’s also not discount that the B1G has been dominated by teams with dominant bigs for several years now. OSU just doesn’t have a big to play through. If you don’t have a dominant big you better have a veteran point guard to really facilitate the offense. I look at typically great teams like OSU and Michigan St and I can see why they are struggling. They have neither..normally they have one or both. They averaged 15 assists per game in their first 14... 8 apg in the last nine, including 6 in their last game against Michigan...that's not sharing the ball... I saw it first in their loss to Nebraska... Body language, eye rolls... They have better talent than 11-12 and 3-9... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 As for DD I haven't heard about him since he lost his job on 107.5 in Indy. I would never listen to him on his new show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, IUFLA said: They averaged 15 assists per game in their first 14... 8 apg in the last nine, including 6 in their last game against Michigan...that's not sharing the ball... I saw it first in their loss to Nebraska... Body language, eye rolls... They have better talent than 11-12 and 3-9... agreed…they do have better talent than that…but losing creates a lot of what you are seeing. It snow balls. They don’t have a leader..you can see that night and day. It’s hard to get off a slide in a tough conference like the B1G. Talent wise the B1G is bunched up….more parity then I’ve ever seen. So what the difference in wins and losses. Seniors and leaders stepping up in winning time. Guys like Trayce and Miller Kopp…and Buie and Lundy and so on. OSU upper class man just aren’t leaders like Liddell and the others they lost. Is it because a freshman is doing all the scoring? I don’t think so…you either have leadership DNA or not. They don’t…so winning time becomes difficult and then the losses start mounting up and pressure gets more and more. Saw it with our teams. You start pressing and then yes some strife sneaks in but if they were winning I doubt it would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, dgambill said: agreed…they do have better talent than that…but losing creates a lot of what you are seeing. It snow balls. They don’t have a leader..you can see that night and day. It’s hard to get off a slide in a tough conference like the B1G. Talent wise the B1G is bunched up….more parity then I’ve ever seen. So what the difference in wins and losses. Seniors and leaders stepping up in winning time. Guys like Trayce and Miller Kopp…and Buie and Lundy and so on. OSU upper class man just aren’t leaders like Liddell and the others they lost. Is it because a freshman is doing all the scoring? I don’t think so…you either have leadership DNA or not. They don’t…so winning time becomes difficult and then the losses start mounting up and pressure gets more and more. Saw it with our teams. You start pressing and then yes some strife sneaks in but if they were winning I doubt it would do that. @rico posted this thread from their fan forum before... Interesting read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 4 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: MN at IL game scheduled for tomorrow postponed due to COVID at MN. Were already down to only 8 scholly players will be played on 2/20. Not great to add a game there but probably the only date that works. Will be after the visit to Bloomington at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 36 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said: will be played on 2/20. Not great to add a game there but probably the only date that works. Will be after the visit to Bloomington at least. Glad it could be rescheduled but I seemed to read somewhere that a woman’s team had to cancel 2 games due to illness and they were forced to forfeit them. Wonder why the double standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, IUFLA said: @rico posted this thread from their fan forum before... Interesting read... Well, well, well: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2023/02/137296/chris-holtmann-says-bruce-thornton-earned-captain-status-in-recent-team-revote-previews-rematch-with-northwestern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 hours ago, rico said: Well, well, well: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2023/02/137296/chris-holtmann-says-bruce-thornton-earned-captain-status-in-recent-team-revote-previews-rematch-with-northwestern Kinda telling, isn't it? The question is I guess, did the losing cause the dysfunction, or did the dysfunction cause the losing... I'd say B based on the 5 or 6 times I've watched them play (pre and during the losing skid)... And I lay that at Holtmann's feet. This rearranging of leadership is a desperate attempt to get the team back... I guess we'll see if it's working Thursday when they host Northwestern, a team they beat handily (by 16) in Evanston when they were playing as a team... We had a 3 game losing streak a while back... The only "dysfunction" was on this board 😁 I think we have a strong enough leader to avoid those kinds of things... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Do y’all still like Dakich or has his shtick run thin on you? I've Dakich free for 4+ years so I'm not the one to ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Makes sense to me. Trying to go full Clay Travis. Difference being Clay is actually really smart. I can handle his stuff. Dakich is just a pure windbag. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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