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B1G has 6 teams higher than NET 90 and only 7 of 14 below NET 70. Big East 9 of 11 below NET 66. Big 12, 12 of 14 below NET 71. ACC 9 of 15 below NET 69. SEC 9 of 14 below NET 70. Pac 12 6 of 12 below NET 76. Mountain West 6 of 11 below NET 54.

Pac 12, Big Ten and ACC by far the weakest major conferences.

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41 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

B1G has 6 teams higher than NET 90 and only 7 of 14 below NET 70. Big East 9 of 11 below NET 66. Big 12, 12 of 14 below NET 71. ACC 9 of 15 below NET 69. SEC 9 of 14 below NET 70. Pac 12 6 of 12 below NET 76. Mountain West 6 of 11 below NET 54.

Pac 12, Big Ten and ACC by far the weakest major conferences.

P12 and ACC are way below the Big Ten. Big Ten is in the group with the SEC and Big East behind the B12.

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17 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said:

P12 and ACC are way below the Big Ten. Big Ten is in the group with the SEC and Big East behind the B12.

Just scroll through the NET rankings sorted by conference. The B1G looks a bit better by composite because it doesn’t have any 150+ teams, but it has very few good teams 

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4 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Just scroll through the NET rankings sorted by conference. The B1G looks a bit better by composite because it doesn’t have any 150+ teams, but it has very few good teams 

https://bracketologists.com/conferences/

The Big Ten has 4 in the top 25. SEC has 4. Big East 3.

ACC has 2

P12 has 2

Others like T-Rank have a similar order for conferences

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8 hours ago, BruceDouglas said:

https://bracketologists.com/conferences/

The Big Ten has 4 in the top 25. SEC has 4. Big East 3.

ACC has 2

P12 has 2

Others like T-Rank have a similar order for conferences

This confirms what I was saying. It’s based on average net ranking. B1G doesn’t have a Louisville or a DePaul. But B1G only has three good teams, WI, PU and IL. 

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2 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said:

This confirms what I was saying. It’s based on average net ranking. B1G doesn’t have a Louisville or a DePaul. But B1G only has three good teams, WI, PU and IL. 

No, actually it refutes what you're saying in comparison to the P12 and ACC which again are well below the B1G. Whether you want to compare the top teams or the entire league. Has been the case for quite a few seasons now. ACC has UNC and Duke and then....not much. P12 has Arizona. Unfortunately several of their dregs will be in the B1G next year.

 

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5 hours ago, BruceDouglas said:

No, actually it refutes what you're saying in comparison to the P12 and ACC which again are well below the B1G. Whether you want to compare the top teams or the entire league. Has been the case for quite a few seasons now. ACC has UNC and Duke and then....not much. P12 has Arizona. Unfortunately several of their dregs will be in the B1G next year.

 

So let's look at it this way. Unbalanced schedules aside, in which conferences are you likely to be playing a NCAAT eligible team on any given night? Rutgers in 2022, had the lowest NET ever for an at large team at 77, so we'll use that as the cutoff. How many teams by conference are 77 or lower and what percentage is that of the entire conference?

Big 12:   12  (86%). 

Big East: 9 (82%)   

SEC: 9 (64%)    

ACC: 9 (60%)    

Big 10: 8 (57%)  

Mountain West 6 (55%)

Pac 12: 6 (50%)

The Big 12 and Big East are absolute meat grinders. The Big10 is just weak this year, but not as weak as the Pac 12. 

 

 

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55 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Rutgers leads the country with 9 Quad 1 losses.  They are 1-9 in Quad 1 games.

The most Quad 1 losses without a Quad 1 win is 7.  4 teams have that designation.

- Indiana

- Oklahoma State

- Georgetown

- Mississippi Valley State 

MS Valley St is 0-7 quad 1, 0-3 quad 2, 0-3 quad 3 and 0-8 quad 4. #362 of 362 in the NET. 

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2 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

MS Valley St is 0-7 quad 1, 0-3 quad 2, 0-3 quad 3 and 0-8 quad 4. #362 of 362 in the NET. 

Where's Detroit Mercy? Last I saw poor Mike Davis's team was 0-22...

I like Davis and always hoped his teams did well, but... 

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3 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Where's Detroit Mercy? Last I saw poor Mike Davis's team was 0-22...

I like Davis and always hoped his teams did well, but... 

Detroit and MS Valley St have played a combined 43 games. 32 are road games. MVSt has played 4 home games all in conference. All 13 non-con games were road games including LSU, OK, UConn, TCU, Liberty, Gonzaga, Baylor & San Francisco. They've played four games in CA, and games in Storrs, CT, Lynchburg VA and Spokane, WA. None of the games were in a tourney. 

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1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Detroit and MS Valley St have played a combined 43 games. 32 are road games. MVSt has played 4 home games all in conference. All 13 non-con games were road games including LSU, OK, UConn, TCU, Liberty, Gonzaga, Baylor & San Francisco. They've played four games in CA, and games in Storrs, CT, Lynchburg VA and Spokane, WA. None of the games were in a tourney. 

That made some CASH this year lol

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13 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

That made some CASH this year lol

There was a coach a few years ago, think it may have been Andy Enfield back at Florida Gulf coast, talking about his year one recruiting strategy was like hey, we are going all over the country and playing all these big teams.  It also brought in a bunch of money for the program to do some things to improve.  

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40 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

How far apart are the following teams in the NET rankings?

Team 1: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 2-7 quad 1, 2-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

Team 2: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 0-7 quad 1, 3-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

 

I assume that is MSU and IU. That is why the is worthless. IU is not dead from the tournament  Need to win the Wisky NW and Msu games  avoid a bad loss and stay in top 5 in the conference standings  That gives you a chance

 

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41 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

How far apart are the following teams in the NET rankings?

Team 1: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 2-7 quad 1, 2-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

Team 2: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 0-7 quad 1, 3-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

 

It's also absurd Ohio State is ranked higher. 

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Just now, 94hoosier said:

I assume that is MSU and IU. That is why the is worthless. IU is not dead from the tournament  Need to win the Wisky NW and Msu games  avoid a bad loss and stay in top 5 in the conference standings  That gives you a chance

 

Yes, it is and not really quibbling with IUs ranking at 94, but MSU at 22? FWIW Jerry Palm has them as an 11 seed playing in the First Four. 

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1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Yes, it is and not really quibbling with IUs ranking at 94, but MSU at 22? FWIW Jerry Palm has them as an 11 seed playing in the First Four. 

I didn’t look it up, but has MSU gotten stomped by anybody? And did they beat the teams they should have beat the way they should have beat them. NET takes into account efficiency numbers, how you play the game, along with the result right? So just comparing two records doesn’t tell the whole story, but I’d still say theirs looks better seeing they have two quad one wins. 

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4 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said:

How far apart are the following teams in the NET rankings?

Team 1: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 2-7 quad 1, 2-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

Team 2: 13-8, 1-4 road, 1-2 neutral, 0-7 quad 1, 3-1 quad 2. No quad 3 or 4 losses

 

Not enough info. Quadrants don't mean much here and there's also potentially huge variances in terms of net efficiencies.

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