Popular Post HPER Smooth Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 I've sat by silently going back to the Eric Gordon days. But our young and newly constructed team plays it's heart out and pushes the #2 team in the country to the finish- and hoosiernation is largely still grousing about our players, coaches, rotations, recruiting. Who needs to be recruited over, pushed out, fired etc...And you wonder why we lose out on so many recruiting battles. Luckily, there were a lot of great recruits at the game who can see the weekly development of our underclassman and the heart our team put on the court yesterday. Sometimes when you lose, you win. My team is on the floor. 10 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted December 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, HPER Smooth said: I've sat by silently going back to the Eric Gordon days. But our young and newly constructed team plays it's heart out and pushes the #2 team in the country to the finish- and hoosiernation is largely still grousing about our players, coaches, rotations, recruiting. Who needs to be recruited over, pushed out, fired etc...And you wonder why we lose out on so many recruiting battles. Luckily, there were a lot of great recruits at the game who can see the weekly development of our underclassman and the heart our team put on the court yesterday. Sometimes when you lose, you win. My team is on the floor. Fans don’t recruit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Inequality said: Fans don’t recruit. But apparently we’re the ONLY fan base that helps make their decisions. 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Has this not been a mostly positive thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Rewatching the game it's tragic that when we fought through a screen, invariably a foul was called...I haven't seen one time they got called for the same thing... Edited December 17, 2023 by IUFLA 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Rewatching the game it's tragic that when we fought through a screen, invariably a foul was called...I haven't seen one time they got called for the same thing... Yep. Even with one eye open late last night I had to go back and watch and noticed the same. I usually am the first to be able take a game in, take the good/bad and move on....but I felt myself ticked this morning because of how we lost that one. We shortened the bench because of need but by shortening the bench our guys were gassed. I'll get over this one today but man that one still hurts. The good news I guess is 1 week removed from Auburn I know we have a much better team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Inequality said: Fans don’t recruit. Nope they don’t…and as CMW has said, he’s here to win titles and there’s positions we need to improve on in terms of talent.  I trust Woody will make the right decision this off-season with regard to recruiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted December 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Has this not been a mostly positive thread? It has. It’s the blaming of fans for a loss or loss of recruits that I find cretinous. Pointing fingers at random no name folks generally labeled fans yet quickly defend those in charge making millions of dollars that actually have a say in and an effect on daily goals and most importantly are solely accountable for overall results is just silly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) This team continues to improve. Get X back healthy and playing like he was at the end of his junior year and we will be a tough out at the end of the year. Remember JHS 10 games into the season. He was just getting things going. Same can be said about MM. We need him to continue to get better. With X back we have 5 Starters s that can score in double figures and take advantage of miss matches. A lot of options and different sets to throw at teams. Gunn and Banks need to keep improving. Both offered very little against Kansas but are capable of giving some minutes. Some games games they will some they won’t. Cupps is finding his role as a backup ball handler and Walker is providing good minutes. Edited December 17, 2023 by 94hoosier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: We shortened the bench because of need but by shortening the bench our guys were gassed. And there lies the rub... Fatigue to the inexperienced is poison...The last 10 minutes or so, Kansas had enough guys out there that had been in this situation numerous times to be able to make the smart plays... We didn't... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Nope they don’t…and as CMW has said, he’s here to win titles and there’s positions we need to improve on in terms of talent.  I trust Woody will make the right decision this off-season with regard to recruiting. McNeeley is a good start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: McNeeley is a good start. Mcneeley is a great start….imagine if we never recruited over? Sparks would be the starting center (Queen, come on down!)  and Gunn our starting wing. We wouldn’t win more than 8 or 9 games…plus the prospects of being recruited over gives current players incentive to work hard knowing that if they don’t get better, they won’t play or they will need playing time elsewhere. Understand, sometimes it’s not working hard just plain talent. Edited December 17, 2023 by Hoosier987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 So over 8 minutes left to go and McCullar picks up a 4th foul.  Self leaves him in the rest of the way.  Was it an incredible stroke of luck that he didn’t foul out, or did Bill know something the rest of us didn’t?  It’s like he dared the refs to call the 5th foul, knowing that they wouldn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Didn't get to watch the game until late last night. Good to see us compete with a top team, though I pretty much expect that at home, but still was good to see. Loved seeing Woodson shorten the rotation. It clearly payed off. I didn't think fatigue had anything to do with this loss. I thought the call that really cost us that I haven't seen mentioned was I think we were down 2 with maybe 1:50 left and Reneau had Dickenson iso'd in the paint and I thought Dickenson fouled the crap out of Reneau and no call. Kansas then hit a 3 to to go up 5. On the Banks/Walker debate, as bad as he's been, I would have given Gunn that spot and gone 3-guards in that situation. We needed perimeter defense fighting through those pin-down screens. It was too much for essentially 4's. Again, good performance, though a little disappointed that I'm sort of happy with the loss.  6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Mcneeley is a great start….imagine if we never recruited over? Sparks would be the starting center (Queen, come on down!)  and Gunn our starting wing. We wouldn’t win more than 8 or 9 games…plus the prospects of being recruited over gives current players incentive to work hard knowing that if they don’t get better, they won’t play or they will need playing time elsewhere. Understand, sometimes it’s not working hard just plain talent. McNeely is a phenomenal start, absolutely. But agree, without adding some play-making and shot-making guards (plural), I think we'll see more of the same. Not bad, but certainly not championship level. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Inequality said: Fans don’t recruit. They can influence a kid not to come to a certain school if they act like lunatics toward current players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: McNeely is a phenomenal start, absolutely. But agree, without adding some play-making and shot-making guards (plural), I think we'll see more of the same. Not bad, but certainly not championship level. Completely agree. This off-season will be pivotal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted December 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: They can influence a kid not to come to a certain school if they act like lunatics toward current players Nah. Let’s not beat this horse again. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Inequality said: Nah. Let’s not beat this horse again. Everybody else has beaten a dead horse about this team. All I am saying the fans needs to look in the mirror sometimes. Since RMK we have had 6 HC, 5 AD's, 4 presidents yet people still think firing these people will make the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, Muddy River said: So over 8 minutes left to go and McCullar picks up a 4th foul.  Self leaves him in the rest of the way.  Was it an incredible stroke of luck that he didn’t foul out, or did Bill know something the rest of us didn’t?  It’s like he dared the refs to call the 5th foul, knowing that they wouldn’t. He also just didn’t foul and his fourth was questionable.  It wasn’t like he was going to have to foul Banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They can influence a kid not to come to a certain school if they act like lunatics toward current players Just want to make sure I’m tracking. You think our fans are lunatics but Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, etc aren’t? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BGleas said: On the Banks/Walker debate, as bad as he's been, I would have given Gunn that spot and gone 3-guards in that situation. Gunn didn't look up to snuff to me... I rewatched and he lacked energy... He was listed as questionable for the game, so I'm wondering if he's still a little ill... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Gunn didn't look up to snuff to me... I rewatched and he lacked energy... He was listed as questionable for the game, so I'm wondering if he's still a little ill... Yeah, I can't speak to how he was feeling, and completely agree that he was not playing well, though neither was Banks. Taking potential illness out of it, and despite his play, I think Gunn would have been the play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, BGleas said: Yeah, I can't speak to how he was feeling, and completely agree that he was not playing well, though neither was Banks. Taking potential illness out of it, and despite his play, I think Gunn would have been the play there. i thought the same thing. Even Leal as a option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, 94hoosier said: i thought the same thing. Even Leal as a option Yeah, at one point it looked like Leal got up from the bench and I thought maybe he was going in. I personally would have gone with Gunn there, just because of his athleticism. I just thought we needed a more perimeter oriented defender in that spot once you could tell Banks was struggling with the pin down screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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