Seeking6 Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 This is probably the kiss of death but Hendricks going for Cubs tonight at home and for the sweep. He's been almost unbeatable at home. Really need this one to even things up after getting swept last weekend. Don't see the Cardinals again until July 30th. Pretty nice win last night after spotting Cards 4 in top of 1st to score 9 unanswered. Don't remember many games like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: This is probably the kiss of death but Hendricks going for Cubs tonight at home and for the sweep. He's been almost unbeatable at home. Really need this one to even things up after getting swept last weekend. Don't see the Cardinals again until July 30th. Pretty nice win last night after spotting Cards 4 in top of 1st to score 9 unanswered. Don't remember many games like that. As a Cubs fan, do you ever see Schwarber living up to the potential of what we thought when he first came up to MLB? Or, is what we have today (sub .240 with a decent, but not great, OBP and power numbers), what we will always get from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: As a Cubs fan, do you ever see Schwarber living up to the potential of what we thought when he first came up to MLB? Or, is what we have today (sub .240 with a decent, but not great, OBP and power numbers, what we will always get from him? No clue anymore. His .866 OPS (on base plus slugging %) in his lead off role would have him ranked 45th or so in baseball so that's a pretty good number. He broke onto the scene in 15 and energized an entire city and fan base so I think the expectations were so high. Missing the entire 16 season but ending up batting I think .430 in the World Series only made the legend grow more. To answer your question. Just not sure. He's on pace for another 30-32 home runs this year. Which based on 2018 leaders would put him around top 20. The average is the tough one. Pure hitting machine at IU. Some of his numbers are actually really, really good....but when you bat .233 people can't get past that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Seeking6 said: No clue anymore. His .866 OPS (on base plus slugging %) in his lead off role would have him ranked 45th or so in baseball so that's a pretty good number. He broke onto the scene in 15 and energized an entire city and fan base so I think the expectations were so high. Missing the entire 16 season but ending up batting I think .430 in the World Series only made the legend grow more. To answer your question. Just not sure. He's on pace for another 30-32 home runs this year. Which based on 2018 leaders would put him around top 20. The average is the tough one. Pure hitting machine at IU. Some of his numbers are actually really, really good....but when you bat .233 people can't get past that one. Kyle is just fine, rooting for the young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, rico said: Kyle is just fine, rooting for the young man. Always and absolutely. I'm a lifer but he's in my top 5 favorite Cubs list already. (Sandberg, Buckner, Sosa, Schwarber and I go back and forth between Zambrano/Randall Simon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Always and absolutely. I'm a lifer but he's in my top 5 favorite Cubs list already. (Sandberg, Buckner, Sosa, Schwarber and I go back and forth between Zambrano/Randall Simon). Nice...being a little older, I'm partial to Shawon Dunston (my favorite baseball player of all time for any team), Schwarber Banks, Jenkins, and Kerry Wood. Would have liked to put Joe Kmak in there, but just not enough time in the bigs. I'd be way down on the list before I got to Sosa. 2 strikes on cheating. I understand he's a bit of a victim of culture, but I can't excuse the cheating. And every time I think of McGwire up in the stands hugging the Maris family after hitting #62 it makes me want to vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Nice...being a little older, I'm partial to Showon Dunston (my favorite baseball player of all time for any team), Schwarber Banks, Jenkins, and Kerry Wood. Would have liked to put Joe Kmak in there, but just not enough time in the bigs. I'd be way down on the list before I got to Sosa. 2 strikes on cheating. I understand he's a bit of a victim of culture, but I can't excuse the cheating. And every time I think of McGwire up in the stands hugging the Maris family after hitting #62 it makes me want to vomit. Love me some Dunston someone had to miss the cut. Saw Kerry Wood this past week when I was up there. Talk about thin. Looks like a stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hendricks continues his phenomenal pitching..especially at home. Cubs sweep Cardinals. Schwarber is looking as good as I've seen him at the plate since 2015. Maybe he found something again. Tough week coming up for Cubs. At Rockies, at Dodgers. Honestly I'd take 4-3 or 3-4 right now. We've never played well at either place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Hendricks continues his phenomenal pitching..especially at home. Cubs sweep Cardinals. Schwarber is looking as good as I've seen him at the plate since 2015. Maybe he found something again. Tough week coming up for Cubs. At Rockies, at Dodgers. Honestly I'd take 4-3 or 3-4 right now. We've never played well at either place. I don’t get how he’s so effective. Is it movement on his pitches? Location? He’s not overpowering obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I don’t get how he’s so effective. Is it movement on his pitches? Location? He’s not overpowering obviously. All the above plus some occasional help from Mother Nature when she delivers winds off the lake (blowing in). So much has been discussed in baseball about launch angle of the hitters Hendricks has been quietly raising his pitches in the zone. Now he's got them guessing even more high/low/in/outside,etc... He has something on the Cardinals though. Last 10 starts vs them he's 7-0 with 2.31 era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Hendricks continues his phenomenal pitching..especially at home. Cubs sweep Cardinals. Schwarber is looking as good as I've seen him at the plate since 2015. Maybe he found something again. Tough week coming up for Cubs. At Rockies, at Dodgers. Honestly I'd take 4-3 or 3-4 right now. We've never played well at either place. Schwarber is just warming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I don’t get how he’s so effective. Is it movement on his pitches? Location? He’s not overpowering obviously. A famous pitcher once said, "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 David Ortiz gets shot...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: David Ortiz gets shot...wow. So sad. The video is chilling. Praying for a full and speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, rico said: David Ortiz gets shot...wow. Pretty scary. Just saw the video of street justice. Guess the guy who pulled the trigger (Garcia) was beat within an inch of his life. That guy won't last long in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Pretty scary. Just saw the video of street justice. Guess the guy who pulled the trigger (Garcia) was beat within an inch of his life. That guy won't last long in prison. Yep, Big Papi is an icon in that country. The guy should have picked a different victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: I don’t get how he’s so effective. Is it movement on his pitches? Location? He’s not overpowering obviously. It is called pitching and it proves you don't have to throw 100 mph to be a great pitcher. It is about location and having movement on the ball and adding or subtracting speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is called pitching and it proves you don't have to throw 100 mph to be a great pitcher. It is about location and having movement on the ball and adding or subtracting speed. And Greg Maddux says hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is called pitching and it proves you don't have to throw 100 mph to be a great pitcher. It is about location and having movement on the ball and adding or subtracting speed. I had no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 And in other news...the Nats hit back to back to back to back jacks. Wow. 4 HRs in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I had no idea! You DID ask the question... 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: I don’t get how he’s so effective. Is it movement on his pitches? Location? He’s not overpowering obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: You DID ask the question... I was asking specifically about Hendricks. I obviously know you don’t have to throw 100 to be effective. Scott gave a generic answer that didn’t answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I was asking specifically about Hendricks. I obviously know you don’t have to throw 100 to be effective. Scott gave a generic answer that didn’t answer the question. He did indeed answer the question with his second sentence... 47 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is about location and having movement on the ball and adding or subtracting speed. Which, historically, is pretty much how any pitcher that doesn't have overpowering stuff is going to do it...Maddux, Hendricks, and the afore-quoted Warren Spahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Throw Tommy John onto that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, rico said: Throw Tommy John onto that list. Yep, and Whitey Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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