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1 minute ago, FritzIam4IU said:

They are asking taxpayers to pay half I believe…not sure that will fly. I am glad to get rid of the UFO toilet stadium whatever they end up doing.

I read that ownership is paying $2 billion, a $300 million loan from the NFL, and $900 million comes from the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority (i.e. taxpayers)...The Bears are saying they'll pay 72%...

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3 minutes ago, bronkonagurski said:

The concept art looks super cool, that is for sure.

So my fear is the McCaskeys go on the cheap for the on the field product (wouldn't be the first time) like Ricketts did for the Cubs to recoup that money and play poor knowing the faithful Bears fans will still show up, just like the Cub fans did...

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5 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

So my fear is the McCaskeys go on the cheap for the on the field product (wouldn't be the first time) like Ricketts did for the Cubs to recoup that money and play poor knowing the faithful Bears fans will still show up, just like the Cub fans did...

Can teams really do that in the NFL though? They have both a salary floor and salary cap, unlike MLB. 

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2 hours ago, bronkonagurski said:

Can teams really do that in the NFL though? They have both a salary floor and salary cap, unlike MLB. 

True, but teams can and do manipulate the numbers...and I'm sure the McCaskeys hire experts in that field...

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3 hours ago, FritzIam4IU said:

They are asking taxpayers to pay half I believe…not sure that will fly. I am glad to get rid of the UFO toilet stadium whatever they end up doing.

 

3 hours ago, IUFLA said:

I read that ownership is paying $2 billion, a $300 million loan from the NFL, and $900 million comes from the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority (i.e. taxpayers)...The Bears are saying they'll pay 72%...

I'm still diving into the numbers. Actually the first renovation of Soldier Field is still short $594M that I guess just gets rolled into this debt? Finances aside which has always been a joke in Illinois I'll say this.

Stadium looks awesome. Increased Capacity by at least 15k to meet F4 requirements. Love the open end facing the city for early season games. Concerns are this. Parking was already at a premium (costs a $100 to park next to stadium) so with construction and location they basically eliminated at least 50% of the tailgating area. Warren says he wants opened by 2028. Pretty aggressive timeline.

Hope all of this works. Will bring the Bears from an optics standpoint into the 21st century and will bring Chicago a wealth of opportunities to finally host national events like Indy. 

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1 hour ago, Zlinedavid said:

How is that old bat still alive? Figured they’d have that fossil on display at the Field Museum by now. 

I just accept that she will live to 128.

she is like the female Montgomery Burns.

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1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

 

Since our last Super Bowl win. If we don't hit on Caleb I'm just going to accept we will never have a QB.  Probably at least 50 listed if not more. Sadly I can remember each and everyone of them. 

I will say this to my Bears brethren or others as well....has a #1 draft pick walked into a situation with as much talent ready to go as Caleb/Bears? Usually teams draft the QB and add talent over the coming years. Bears are taking the opposite approach. Stack talent and welcome the QB. 

I think the Patriots are in order for similar tonight. Do they trade back and build the talent to get their QB in a couple of years or?

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1986 Mike Tomczak (7) / Jim McMahon (6) / Steve Fuller (2) / Doug Flutie (1) [68]
1987 Jim McMahon (6) / Mike Tomczak (6) / Mike Hohensee (2) / Steve Bradley (1) [69]
1988 Jim McMahon (9) / Mike Tomczak (5) / Jim Harbaugh (2) [70]
1989 Mike Tomczak (11) / Jim Harbaugh (5) [71]
1990 Jim Harbaugh (14) / Mike Tomczak (2) [72]
1991 Jim Harbaugh (16) [73]
1992 Jim Harbaugh (13) / Peter Tom Willis (2) / Will Furrer (1) [74]
1993 Jim Harbaugh (15) / Peter Tom Willis (1) [75]
1994 Steve Walsh (11) / Erik Kramer (5) [76]
1995 Erik Kramer (16) [77]
1996 Dave Krieg (12) / Erik Kramer (4) [78]
1997 Erik Kramer (13) / Rick Mirer (3) [79]
1998 Erik Kramer (8) / Steve Stenstrom (7) / Moses Moreno (1) [80]
1999 Shane Matthews (7) / Cade McNown (6) / Jim Miller (3) [81]
2000 Cade McNown (9) / Shane Matthews (5) / Jim Miller (2) [82]
2001 Jim Miller (13) / Shane Matthews (3) [83]
2002 Jim Miller (8) / Chris Chandler (7) / Henry Burris (1) [84]
2003 Kordell Stewart (7) / Chris Chandler (6)/ Rex Grossman (3) [85]
2004 Craig Krenzel (5) / Chad Hutchinson (5)/ Jonathan Quinn (3) / Rex Grossman (3) [86]
2005 Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1) [87]
2006 Rex Grossman (16) [88]
2007 Rex Grossman (7) / Brian Griese (6) / Kyle Orton (3) [89]
2008 Kyle Orton (15) / Rex Grossman (1) [90]
2009 Jay Cutler (16) [91]
2010 Jay Cutler (15) / Todd Collins (1) [92]
2011 Jay Cutler (10) / Caleb Hanie (4) / Josh McCown (2) [93]
2012 Jay Cutler (15) / Jason Campbell (1) [94]
2013 Jay Cutler (11) / Josh McCown (5) [95]
2014 Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1) [96]
2015 Jay Cutler (15) / Jimmy Clausen (1) [97]
2016 Matt Barkley (6) / Jay Cutler (5) / Brian Hoyer (5) [98]
2017 Mitchell Trubisky (12) / Mike Glennon (4) [99]
2018 Mitchell Trubisky (14) / Chase Daniel (2) [100]
2019 Mitchell Trubisky (15) / Chase Daniel (1) [101]
2020 Mitchell Trubisky (9) / Nick Foles (7) [102]
2021 Justin Fields (10) / Andy Dalton (6) / Nick Foles (1) [103]
2022 Justin Fields (15) / Trevor Siemian (1) / Nathan Peterman (1) [104]
2023 Justin Fields (13) / Tyson Bagent (4) [105]


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6 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

Caleb Williams/Rome Odunze OH YEAH!!!!!!!! BEAR DOWN!!!!!

We've officially killed the offseason and I'll ask it again. Has a #1 QB ever walked into more talent? DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Odunze, Swift, Kmet??

Just wow. PS....not sure what the Falcons are thinking giving Cousins a $100M but so happy for Penix. 

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1 minute ago, Seeking6 said:

We've officially killed the offseason and I'll ask it again. Has a #1 QB ever walked into more talent? DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Odunze, Swift, Kmet??

Just wow. PS....not sure what the Falcons are thinking giving Cousins a $100M but so happy for Penix. 

I'm so happy they took Odunze and didn't trade back in that situation. Take the blue chip receiver to grow with Caleb. I'm all about the Bears reinforcing the trenches with 3rd/4th round picks and next years draft.

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