IUwins0708 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: You would think that, after 67 pages, he would have been fired by now. Do we need a candle vigil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Do we need a candle vigil? Nope! Those are only for former 4 star Georgetown players who are stacking groceries in DC right now. At least that's what I remember. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Feathery said: Bozich had a article as did Doyle. Bozich focused on the poor free throw shooting costing close games. This is nothing new. To Archie's detriment, he was arrogant and defensive about it in 2018 rather than recognizing the problem and addressing it. It may cost him his job. https://www.hoosiersportsreport.com/2018/12/hoosiers-struggling-to-solve-free-throw-woes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Not sure why everyone is complaining. I see 5 of 6 or 6 of 7 wins coming. Beat Iowa and this team is going to go on a run and all of a sudden....Archie will have firmly have the fans grounded again. Shoot it happened last year with Underwood at Illinois when 75% of his fan wanted him gone in December...why not us? I doubt it. He's underachieved every year. He needs a miracle at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I doubt it. He's underachieved every year. He needs a miracle at this point. Have faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Here's the thing. Archie has completely lost the fan base. He needs a F4 next season to possibly get them back. So what do you do if we finish 3-4 in the B1G next season and get bounced in the round of 32 or Sweet 16? The fans will still want him gone and will be tweeting at recruits to go elsewhere. That won't change. I promise you on that. It will be a lost cause no matter what at that point. What do you do? If IU finishes 3rd in the Big Ten and makes the Sweet Sixteen next year, I'll be really happy in understanding that we had a good year and are headed in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Bozich focused on the poor free throw shooting costing close games. This is nothing new. To Archie's detriment, he was arrogant and defensive about it in 2018 rather than recognizing the problem and addressing it. It may cost him his job. https://www.hoosiersportsreport.com/2018/12/hoosiers-struggling-to-solve-free-throw-woes/ That has been one of my biggest negatives about Archie. I've seen little to no self-reflection from him. We're still making the same mistakes, the same lack of lineup changes, the same poor shooting, the same lack of effort at times. Nothing changes. Almost all improvements we've made have been due to an increase in age and playing time, not really an increase in any skills. Franklin is probably the only exception to that. In 4 years, one guy has really improved his skills. Are we doing the same things in practice? Are we changing how we're teaching shooting and free throws? Are we willing to bring in a "shot doctor?" Why do we always start the same guys in the 2nd half who started the game? Are things being done to try to build chemistry and hard work, or is that just something that is expected of kids? Maybe we're trying to change a lot of things, but something we're doing in practices clearly isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, BGleas said: If IU finishes 3rd in the Big Ten and makes the Sweet Sixteen next year, I'll be really happy in understanding that we had a good year and are headed in the right direction. Fans who think objectively would all think the same but emotional people are not objective, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: That has been one of my biggest negatives about Archie. I've seen little to no self-reflection from him. We're still making the same mistakes, the same lack of lineup changes, the same poor shooting, the same lack of effort at times. Nothing changes. Almost all improvements we've made have been due to an increase in age and playing time, not really an increase in any skills. Franklin is probably the only exception to that. In 4 years, one guy has really improved his skills. Are we doing the same things in practice? Are we changing how we're teaching shooting and free throws? Are we willing to bring in a "shot doctor?" Why do we always start the same guys in the 2nd half who started the game? Are things being done to try to build chemistry and hard work, or is that just something that is expected of kids? Maybe we're trying to change a lot of things, but something we're doing in practices clearly isn't working. I think Race has improved his overall skills as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I would gladly take 3rd in the big ten and a sweet 16 appearance next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I think Race has improved his overall skills as well. I count him kind of in the middle. Some skill improvement, but more age/experience improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 50 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I doubt it. He's underachieved every year. He needs a miracle at this point. Understand. Doubt it, miracle, and underachieved are words that say your point. With that said...if he and "the players" go on a run here would you reconsider? Or are you nail in the coffin he's done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: You would think that, after 67 pages, he would have been fired by now. 68 pages since January 14. Barring a hot finish and this thing getting buried, I'd set the over under at 1200 pages before a coaching change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleHoosier Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I would gladly take 3rd in the big ten and a sweet 16 appearance next year. I would also. Finish in the middle of the pack this year and get into the top 3-4 next year and win a couple in the tournament. I would add building a roster that gives confidence on sustaining success moving forward as well. I like the Stewart addition, but Archie may want to add another transfer that is ready to play next season. Franklin will be even better next season, Lander will be better also, and Stewart shouldn't have any problem replacing Al's production, but if Trayce leaves after this season, we'll need more help than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Fans who think objectively would all think the same but emotional people are not objective, 1 out of 5 isn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 This won’t be a popular take but, Archie’s our coach. We need to root like hell for the team and him until they are gone. Then root for the next guy. Negative takes on social media don’t help the team, fans, players, recruiting etc. Go Hoosiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, OGIUAndy said: This won’t be a popular take but, Archie’s our coach. We need to root like hell for the team and him until they are gone. Then root for the next guy. Negative takes on social media don’t help the team, fans, players, recruiting etc. Go Hoosiers! Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I think Archie is going to need to hit the transfer market pretty hard, even though I’m fairly excited about the group that will return next year. The team will only go as far as our guards, so Lander, Stewart and Franklin will probably need to step up another level unless we get a transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleHoosier Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I think Archie is going to need to hit the transfer market pretty hard, even though I’m fairly excited about the group that will return next year. The team will only go as far as our guards, so Lander, Stewart and Franklin will probably need to step up another level unless we get a transfer. When Matt Cross hit the transfer portal, I thought he would be perfect. A 6-7 guy that can shoot and play multiple positions. From some of the comments on here and elsewhere, it seems likely not to happen. Ideally, I think a player in the mold, maybe more talented, would fit the team pretty well. I would like to see if the offense would improve with only one post player on the court. I think Armaan could have even more of an impact with driving lanes more open as well as Lander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, EvilleHoosier said: When Matt Cross hit the transfer portal, I thought he would be perfect. A 6-7 guy that can shoot and play multiple positions. From some of the comments on here and elsewhere, it seems likely not to happen. Ideally, I think a player in the mold, maybe more talented, would fit the team pretty well. I would like to see if the offense would improve with only one post player on the court. I think Armaan could have even more of an impact with driving lanes more open as well as Lander. I really think a lineup of Lander, Stewart, Franklin, Geronimo and Thompson could really work in the big ten. Rob or transfer pg as the backup, Leal, Galloway, Hunter or Transfer, Brunk, and Duncomb feels like a fairly balanced lineup. A lot of fans talk about post play but Geronimo to me has shown the ability to play the post and stretch the floor on offense if he gets his jumper a little more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Not sure why everyone is complaining. I see 5 of 6 or 6 of 7 wins coming. Beat Iowa and this team is going to go on a run and all of a sudden....Archie will have firmly have the fans grounded again. Shoot it happened last year with Underwood at Illinois when 75% of his fan wanted him gone in December...why not us? Didnt we already beat Iowa and then run straight to the crapper the next game? 🤔🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, 3Ballin said: Didnt we already beat Iowa and then run straight to the crapper the next game? 🤔🤷♂️ I thought we were in the crapper before Iowa. Then peaked our head over the rim beating Iowa. And then fell back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, rico said: I thought we were in the crapper before Iowa. Then peaked our head over the rim beating Iowa. And then fell back in. maybe we were kind if like a floater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 11 hours ago, BGleas said: If IU finishes 3rd in the Big Ten and makes the Sweet Sixteen next year, I'll be really happy in understanding that we had a good year and are headed in the right direction. We fired Crean because of too many down years spent on the bubble. Seasons exactly like all four we've experienced so far under Archie. In between those seasons, Crean would win the conference and make the Sweet Sixteen. A year like what you described would buy Archie some time, but I'd need to see more before I would believe we're headed in the right direction. There's a deficit of trust right now, and it's going to take more than one good year to climb out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 12 hours ago, IUwins0708 said: Don’t disagree but only a few know the true story on that. I know I’d take him in a heartbeat 2003–04 Baylor 8–21 3–13 11th Ineligible 2004–05 Baylor 9–19 1–15 12th 2005–06 Baylor 4–13 4–12 12th 2006–07 Baylor 15–16 4–12 11th 2007–08 Baylor 21–11 9–7 T–4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 2008–09 Baylor 24–15 5–11 9th NIT Runner-up 2009–10 Baylor 28–8 11–5 T–2nd NCAA Division I Elite Eight 2010–11 Baylor 18–13 7–9 T–7th What season are we in with CAM again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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