btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 5 championships said: Cliff does a great job and all the players seem to really like him…I think he is great dude and really cares and the players seem to notice that. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, RoadToZion said: What team is hurt more than us? Seriolusly. Lots of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RoadToZion said: Look at his dumbass workouts. Holding bricks while saying bible verses isn't helping anything. Hmm that's a tough sell. Edited July 18, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: Were your eyeballs on any other teams and their injury situations? Just a cursory look at the Big 10 shows that only Michigan losing Llewellyn was anywhere close to the affect that losing XJ was to us... But both XJ and Race were injured on the court getting tangled up with other players... JHS's back was a flare up from an old high school injury... Trayce's back was due to a fall early in the year... I think only Galloway's sports hernia and Geronimo's calf could be cited for any over use or over training... The kids all seem to love Clif, and they single him out for praise a lot... If they thought over training was an issue, I'm sure one of them would speak up... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 If.... Clif "sucks" (not my words)... Woodson is incompetent for allowing him to stay on staff. Of course, maybe our analysis of the situation is wrong, that could always be possible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: If.... Clif "sucks" (not my words)... Woodson is incompetent for allowing him to stay on staff. Of course, maybe our analysis of the situation is wrong, that could always be possible. I was thinking if Clif was anywhere near as bad as some people claim, I would think people above Woodson would take issue 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 I do remember when Woody took over the emphasis on strength training got more in balance with aerobic training... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, btownqb said: Lots of them. WHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 You guys are so defensive. Maybe you all go to church with him or something. I cant stand the guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: WHO 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, ledies22 said: So only 6 more teams out of 68 had more guys ruled out due to injury. Sorry i said 5%, its actually 8%. thats not good. all D1 teams we'd be in the top 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: So only 6 more teams out of 68 had more guys ruled out due to injury. Sorry i said 5%, its actually 8%. thats not good. all D1 teams we'd be in the top 5%. The issue is you blaming it on Clif. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 More than possible your boy Woodson is to blame. 👍 Edited July 18, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: You guys are so defensive. Maybe you all go to church with him or something. I cant stand the guy Nobody is defensive. You're allowed to not like Clif Marshall, your prerogative of course. But, you're going to get pushback when you make baseless claims about IU having more injuries than other teams, being in the top 5% of injured teams, etc., with no data attached to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: The issue is you blaming it on Clif. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 at some point you have to start to look at who is in charge..................................................................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, BGleas said: Nobody is defensive. You're allowed to not like Clif Marshall, your prerogative of course. But, you're going to get pushback when you make baseless claims about IU having more injuries than other teams, being in the top 5% of injured teams, etc., with no data attached to it. The chart proved my point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, RoadToZion said: at some point you have to start to look at who is in charge..................................................................................... Woodson is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, RoadToZion said: The chart proved my point No it didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: Woodson is. woodson doesnt make them hold bricks and do jumping jacks in the pool............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 There is so much "luck" involved its wild to blame it on one person. Race and XJs injuries (which account for a huge portion of our missed games) had absolutely nothing to do with CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, RoadToZion said: woodson doesnt make them hold bricks and do jumping jacks in the pool............................................. They didn't get injured in the offseason... those are low impact... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: There is so much "luck" involved its wild to blame it on one person. Race and XJs injuries (which account for a huge portion of our missed games) had absolutely nothing to do with CM. Right. The two biggest "games lost" injuries for IU last year had absolutely nothing to do with strength, conditioning or anything under Clif's perview. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Okay I guess Clif is God himself. Hes amazing and his prayers sure help us stay healthy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: No it didn't. How can you look at that chart and not see that injuries are a serious issue with our team. There are very few in front of us with guys ruled out. And that only shows a small sample. We are easily in the top 5% of D1 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: Woodson is. Can we fire tom allen yet???????????????????????????????????? He's the man in charge and we suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: How can you look at that chart and not see that injuries are a serious issue with our team. There are very few in front of us with guys ruled out. And that only shows a small sample. We are easily in the top 5% of D1 teams. Should we put them in bubble wrap to make sure someone doesn't dive into Race's knee or twist XJs foot? Those two make up over 50% of our missed games... Edited July 18, 2023 by btownqb 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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