IUCrazy2 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 https://currently.att.yahoo.com/sports/iowa-pulls-tickets-from-illinois-fan-group-ahead-of-game-after-it-allegedly-posed-as-boys-and-girls-club-051216096.html Great fans Illinois.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Someone needs to tweet or get this to the student section somehow they should count 1,2,3.....every time Edey enters the lane. If the refs aren't going to call it on the up and up....shame them into calling it. That's a pretty good idea that an account like HoosierHystrcs or Assembly Call with a lot of followers would tweet out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/sports/iowa-pulls-tickets-from-illinois-fan-group-ahead-of-game-after-it-allegedly-posed-as-boys-and-girls-club-051216096.html Great fans Illinois.... They are posers in more ways than that... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, IUFLA said: They are posers in more ways than that... 🙂 Was waiting for someone to bring this up. Even though the Illini kids lied....for Iowa to cancel after being duped is pretty weak. The really weak part was that Iowa had 200 seats together for purchase at a Big 10 home game vs a rival? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: When a player, who has been in the lane for fewer than three seconds, immediately dribbles or makes a move to try for a goal, the three second count shall be suspended to allow for the completion of the try. However, when the player passes the ball or aborts his try for goal, the suspended count shall continue. When that player is in the lane for more than three seconds, a violation has been committed. Learn something new everyday. I thought that the 3 seconds gets reset when they obtain possession of the ball (even if they pass back out while staying in the lane). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Illinois and Iowa are rivals? That reeks of desperation. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 hours ago, IUFLA said: Boilers up on Penn St by 6 at the break... Here's a little glimpse of what Edey gets away with constantly... He enters the lane with 27 seconds on the shot clock and doesn't exit til there are 20 seconds on the shot clock... PXL_20230202_001644588~3.mp4 42.36 MB · 0 downloads Would they ever call 3 seconds on him? So, am I missing something? -He enters the lane at 26 - catches ball at 23 - time is suspended - he passes out and immediately makes a move to get out of the lane I thought that the count stops and the player gives up position and makes a concerted effort to leave the lane. Per an NBA memo no the 3 second rule; this is listed as legal Quote The highlighted player starts to exit the lane before the three-second count is reached, and he does not stop until he clears the lane. http://dmmx2.nba.com/videourlredirect?&project=/bballops/bballops_O_3_Memo_Legal_1 3 In that video his feet are technically in the lane for more than 3 seconds, but he makes a move to exit the lane before 3 seconds are up. In real time, I don't think any official would call that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: So, am I missing something? -He enters the lane at 26 - catches ball at 23 - time is suspended - he passes out and immediately makes a move to get out of the lane I thought that the count stops and the player gives up position and makes a concerted effort to leave the lane. Per an NBA memo no the 3 second rule; this is listed as legal In that video his feet are technically in the lane for more than 3 seconds, but he makes a move to exit the lane before 3 seconds are up. In real time, I don't think any official would call that. Does the NCAA use this rule? Otherwise, none of this matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: So, am I missing something? -He enters the lane at 26 - catches ball at 23- time is suspended - he passes out and immediately makes a move to get out of the lane I thought that the count stops and the player gives up position and makes a concerted effort to leave the lane. Per an NBA memo no the 3 second rule; this is listed as legal In that video his feet are technically in the lane for more than 3 seconds, but he makes a move to exit the lane before 3 seconds are up. In real time, I don't think any official would call that. This... by definition.... is absolutely 3 secs in the lane. I have no problem with this NOT being called, though. What does the bold mean? Time is suspended? He enters the lane at 25 for count purposes because the ball is in the back court at 26. He exits the lane at 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: Does the NCAA use this rule? Otherwise, none of this matters. Yeah. I didn't have any luck finding NCAA verbiage on this. Would love to see it. Good convo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: This... by definition.... is absolutely 3 secs in the lane. I have no problem with this NOT being called, though. What does the bold mean? Time is suspended? You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, Mackey Arena 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I forget which game it was but just the other night they called a 3 second. The announcer commented that was so rare it was like winning the lottery. Or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: This... by definition.... is absolutely 3 secs in the lane. I have no problem with this NOT being called, though. What does the bold mean? Time is suspended? He enters the lane at 25 for count purposes because the ball is in the back court at 26. He exits the lane at 19. The *count* (lol) is suspended. Once he has possession of the ball the 3 second count stops until he gets rid of the ball. Am i interpreting that right? Edited February 2, 2023 by tdhoosier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, tdhoosier said: The *count* (lol) is suspended. One he has the possession of the ball the 3 second count stops until he gets rid of the ball. Am i interpreting that right? No. The count does not suspend when catches the ball. Now.. they do offer some leeway after you pass the ball, which I am for sure good with. As mentioned, I don't want this called 3 secs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Here’s my question for you: how often do you actually see 3 seconds called? I honestly know that Edey gets away with it plenty but maybe it’s something officials just don’t really pay attention to? I think I've seen 1 call this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/sports/iowa-pulls-tickets-from-illinois-fan-group-ahead-of-game-after-it-allegedly-posed-as-boys-and-girls-club-051216096.html Great fans Illinois.... Krush are great fans that raise a lot of money for charity. But made a bonehead move here. And Iowa doesn't look too good here either iMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I forget which game it was but just the other night they called a 3 second. The announcer commented that was so rare it was like winning the lottery. Or something like that. It’s a certainty that one will be called on Race or Trayce Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Michigan and MSU guy talk about B1G NCAA chances. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bracket-bluster-a-look-at-every-big-ten-teams-ncaa/id1441320419?i=1000597586642 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: No. The count does not suspend when catches the ball. Now.. they do offer some leeway after you pass the ball, which I am for sure good with. As mentioned, I don't want this called 3 secs. Not trying to be argumentitive, just understanding. So if a player is in the lane for 2 seconds, catches the ball, makes a couple of dribbles for 2 more seconds, and then shoots it - that is technically a 3 second violation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) I would venture to guess that any team with any post presence at all is probably guilty of 3 seconds multiple times a game. It's a tough one to monitor. First, there are the two caveats, which are beginning to shoot and imminently leaving the lane area. Secondly, the player's ability to get out of the lane could be impeded by the defense. If I was a referee, I would put this at the bottom of my priority list of calls unless a player blatantly violates it multiple times over the course of a game. If what we saw from Edey in the video was an isolated incident, I'm not calling it. Edited February 2, 2023 by 5fouls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Not trying to be argumentitive, just understanding. So if a player is in the lane for 2 seconds, catches the ball, makes a couple of dribbles for 2 more seconds, and then shoots it - that is technically a 3 second violation? You're good. But yes, technically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I would venture to guess that any team with any post presence at all is probably guilty of 3 seconds multiple times a game. It's a tough one to monitor. First, there are the two caveats, which are beginning to shoot and imminently leaving the lane area. Secondly, the player's ability to get out of the lane could be impeded by the defense. If I was a referee, I would put this at the bottom of my priority list of calls unless a player blatantly violates it multiple times over the course of a game. If what we saw from Edey in the video was an isolated incident, I'm not calling it. To the bold, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I think a whole lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment if we think we are going to get a lot of foul calls, 3 seconds, or get Edey in foul trouble when we play. There is just no precedent for that happening all year with Purdue…to think we will have that happen seems silly. They are certainly beatable but it will take a great all around team effort and a very efficient game…and most importantly lock down defense and force Purdue to initiate offense well far out from the 3pt line and do this without fouling ourselves. Push Edey away from the basket and don’t let him initiate from the paint. He will get his but make him start outside the lane. As soon as he starts to dribble hace active hands from our guards but be in positikn to fall back quick to their man. Perhaps make him pick up his dribble and as soon as he does bail back to your guy. Don’t really double just help down and fall back. You can’t double him anyways he will throw over a double…just stop him from going into his move or make him start and stop etc throwing off his timing. And please run them off the 3pt line. Give them runners and jumpers fine…but no 3s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I would venture to guess that any team with any post presence at all is probably guilty of 3 seconds multiple times a game. It's a tough one to monitor. First, there are the two caveats, which are beginning to shoot and imminently leaving the lane area. Secondly, the player's ability to get out of the lane could be impeded by the defense. If I was a referee, I would put this at the bottom of my priority list of calls unless a player blatantly violates it multiple times over the course of a game. If what we saw from Edey in the video was an isolated incident, I'm not calling it. You're not alone. I found this when I looked up the rule. https://www.referee.com/a-guide-to-enforcing-the-three-second-violation/ If there is one rule many officials are loath to enforce, it seems to be the three-second violation. For them, ruling a three-second violation carries the same stigma as riding in the Tour de France with training wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 second rule was instituted when lane was 6’ wide. this is what I was taught when I learned to ref I was also taught to call things when a team gained an advantage If I were reffing I’d call it at 4+ seconds after a verbal warning ⚠️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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