Reacher Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: Texas? If we are going to be a truly national conference, need some TX teams. Maybe Alabama will want to come over as well. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Reacher said: If we are going to be a truly national conference, need some TX teams. Maybe Alabama will want to come over as well. 😁 Isn't the B1G contract vs sec contract pay 100 vs 70 mil per school per year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 3:11 PM, dgambill said: Florida and Florida St pull viewers in every part of the state…including Miami….the Hurricanes only draw the Miami market primarily. Don’t get me wrong Miami has around 1.5 million viewers on avg but Florida St avgs about a million more. If you want a program to draw viewership between the two it isn’t close…Florida St would draw way more eyes and get in way more recruits homes. I also think it would be more beneficial for Florida St as well. They would be the only Florida team in the B1G and could differentiate themselves from the other two in-state schools and probably would become the favorite to win the new Atlantic Division in the B1G instead of fighting it out with Florida and Georgia and probably Clemson in the SEC. I’d be very happy to add them. As far as Georgia Tech?? Heck they pull Purdue viewership….same as Virginia. I know there is more than viewership involved but I’d be targeting FSU, VT, NC, Duke in the ACC and Stanford, Washington, and Oregon…then dare ND to not join. Like UCLA and USC I feel NC and Duke are a pair and there is value outside of just football with Duke…besides IU needs a football win somewhere. We need to up the focus across all sports not just football and Duke will help change the play style in Basketball and recruiting nationally. Also I don’t want another Purdue/Wisconsin clone in Virginia in the league selfishly lol. You don’t need viewers. You just need the B1G network to be moved from premium to standard channels lineup. So you want as many viewers buying cable/streaming services as you can. (See Rutgers/Maryland)They still pay for the subscription and don’t have to watch. That’s why the B1G is winning. They go after markets. Clemson is a big brand in a shit market. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said: You don’t need viewers. You just need the B1G network to be moved from premium to standard channels lineup. So you want as many viewers buying cable/streaming services as you can. (See Rutgers/Maryland)They still pay for the subscription and don’t have to watch. That’s why the B1G is winning. They go after markets. Clemson is a big brand in a shit market. Right. I've said on here for years. Grow the balls to go and poach a team from the sec. Forget Georgia Tech. Get real Georgia. Forget Miami, get Florida. And whey in the world did we let Texas walk? Counter punch. Go get A&M while they are still pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Right. I've said on here for years. Grow the balls to go and poach a team from the sec. Forget Georgia Tech. Get real Georgia. Forget Miami, get Florida. And whey in the world did we let Texas walk? Counter punch. Go get A&M while they are still pissed. Because Oklahoma wasn’t an AAU school. Academics/research matter. Plus Oklahoma is a small market. Just wasn’t a fit. Hindsight might be 20/20 though. Texas would’ve fit nicely. I really doubt the B1G gets any SEC teams. Too much history. The B1G will get its research and market based schools. NC, VA, UNC, GT all make sense. Oregon, Stanford, Washington too. Edited May 25, 2023 by Victobmyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Victobmyboy said: Because Oklahoma wasn’t an AAU school. Academics/research matter. Plus Oklahoma is a small market. Just wasn’t a fit. Hindsight might be 20/20 though. Texas would’ve fit nicely. I really doubt the B1G gets any SEC teams. Too much history. The B1G will get its research and market based schools. Does Texas really care about bringing Oklahoma as a package deal? Wonder if we even tried. Either way. Texas is a big enough haul, if they wanted to bring utep with them you say, welcome to the B1G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Does Texas really care about bringing Oklahoma as a package deal? Wonder if we even tried. Either way. Texas is a big enough haul, if they wanted to bring utep with them you say, welcome to the B1G. Yes. It was a package deal. That’s why Texas isn’t in the B1G. Remember they have to be worth it. The B1G wants AAU/research too. Utep doesn’t have any of those things. So it’s markets and AAU. Edited May 25, 2023 by Victobmyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Does Texas really care about bringing Oklahoma as a package deal? Wonder if we even tried. Either way. Texas is a big enough haul, if they wanted to bring utep with them you say, welcome to the B1G. Every school in the B1G is a member of the AAU(Association of American Universities) except Nebraska. And Nebraska was a member when they joined but has since lost their accreditation. https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, rico said: Every school in the B1G is a member of the AAU(Association of American Universities) except Nebraska. And Nebraska was a member when they joined but has since lost their accreditation. https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members I'm aware. If our current deal pays 100 vs secs 70 thats a 300 million dollar difference over the next 10 years. swoopimg A&M and Florida would be a bigger play than Texas and Oklahoma. If greed is the driver then let greed be the reason to pull them out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 10 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: I'm aware. If our current deal pays 100 vs secs 70 thats a 300 million dollar difference over the next 10 years. swoopimg A&M and Florida would be a bigger play than Texas and Oklahoma. If greed is the driver then let greed be the reason to pull them out. I would surmise that the B1G is looking at 3 things. (1) AAU status, (2) TV market, and (3) name brand. According to adding Rutgers the brand can be overlooked. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 13 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: I'm aware. If our current deal pays 100 vs secs 70 thats a 300 million dollar difference over the next 10 years. swoopimg A&M and Florida would be a bigger play than Texas and Oklahoma. If greed is the driver then let greed be the reason to pull them out. Texas A&M and Florida in a heart beat and fit the BIG 10 culture. UT doesn't play nice in any conference they are part of. They'll be a major headache for the SEC. Pull in UW and Oregon. ACC schools are a longer term play with their Grant of Rights situation. IMO Notre Dame will eventually wither on the vine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 I am by no means one of these click-bait sports writers that theorize with speculation. But I wonder if Notre Dame is just sitting back to see what happens with the ACC and PAC-12. And then pouncing on the leftovers to form a new national conference with the Irish being the marquee brand. You got to keep a close eye on those Golden Domers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, rico said: You got to keep a close eye on those Golden Domers. He does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Texas would come with the Longhorn Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted May 30, 2023 Report Share Posted May 30, 2023 Sounds like Colorado wants to go back to the Big 12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 30, 2023 Report Share Posted May 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, thirdgenhoosier said: Sounds like Colorado wants to go back to the Big 12. Who says you can't go back home? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 30, 2023 Report Share Posted May 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, rico said: Who says you can't go back home? lol That you, Jon Bon Jovi? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted May 30, 2023 Report Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, thirdgenhoosier said: Sounds like Colorado wants to go back to the Big 12. Maybe they can take Nebraska with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 19 hours ago, TheWatShot said: Maybe they can take Nebraska with them. Hey now….even as bad as our football and basketball program had been recently we still needed a win so we can’t get rid of all the bad schools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/news/ohio-state-buckeyes-big-ten-expansion-acc-pac-12-programs-dissovlement More news about expansion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/news/ohio-state-buckeyes-big-ten-expansion-acc-pac-12-programs-dissovlement More news about expansion https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/inside-the-big-12s-pursuit-of-gonzaga-uconn-as-brett-yormark-aims-to-increase-leagues-basketball-dominance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/news/ohio-state-buckeyes-big-ten-expansion-acc-pac-12-programs-dissovlement More news about expansion First time I've heard Utah mentioned. Interesting. They are a growing state. Not sure who would be a good pair for them. Not a fan of Duke joining. Assuming it is a condition for NC. NC and VA, or GA Tech is fine but I prefer no Duke Edited June 7, 2023 by Reacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Reacher said: First time I've heard Utah mentioned. Interesting. They are a growing state. Not sure who would be a good pair for them. Not a fan of Duke joining. Assuming it is a condition for NC. NC and VA, or GA Tech is fine but I prefer no Duke I'm not sure any school can lay down conditions with all of the schools that are interested in the Big 10...Start trying to negotiate conditions and you'll wind up in the A-10 with Duke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'm not sure any school can lay down conditions with all of the schools that are interested in the Big 10...Start trying to negotiate conditions and you'll wind up in the A-10 with Duke... And I'm perfectly OK with NC and Duke in the A10. We can take GA Tech and VA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Reacher said: And I'm perfectly OK with NC and Duke in the A10. We can take GA Tech and VA. I would prefer to take both NC and Duke for basketball. Iron sharpens iron. And for football, we get a couple of easy wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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